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Oldest Jewelry? "Beads" Discovered in African Cave
National Geographic News ^ | April 15, 2004 | Hillary Mayell

Posted on 04/16/2004 8:58:13 AM PDT by balrog666

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75,000 year old Mardi Gras beads.

1 posted on 04/16/2004 8:58:14 AM PDT by balrog666
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To: PatrickHenry
Ping please.
2 posted on 04/16/2004 8:58:42 AM PDT by balrog666 (A public service post.)
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Ancient bling bling ping...
3 posted on 04/16/2004 9:00:03 AM PDT by Constitution Day (FR needs your support... Become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: balrog666
So, if we have been genetically modern for 200,000 years or more, why did our minds become more powerful only 45,000 years ago?
4 posted on 04/16/2004 9:01:43 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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SA ping.
5 posted on 04/16/2004 9:03:30 AM PDT by Constitution Day (FR needs your support... Become a Monthly Donor!)
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http://minotaur.marques.co.za/clients/zulu/

Makes sense to me. The more I look at different beadwork the more they look the same. very interesting!
6 posted on 04/16/2004 9:15:34 AM PDT by cyborg (Frakenfreude Radio... look out belowwwwwwwwwww!)
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To: cyborg
Thanks for the link.
I didn't get to see much of the Zulu beadwork there, but the Ndebele stuff was really amazing.
7 posted on 04/16/2004 9:17:59 AM PDT by Constitution Day (FR needs your support... Become a Monthly Donor!)
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If I ever went, I'd never buy from those cliched tourist traps. The street hawkers and such made the best and cost less and that's how they earn a living. The beadwork is breathtaking and every one is a bit different and so its one of a kind.
8 posted on 04/16/2004 9:21:35 AM PDT by cyborg (Frakenfreude Radio... look out belowwwwwwwwwww!)
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To: eno_
So, if we have been genetically modern for 200,000 years or more, why did our minds become more powerful only 45,000 years ago?

That was my question too. Cause, like if we are the same "form factor" as it were, what tripped the switch to make us self aware (the rational why beads are accepted as instance of "modern" thinking - self decoration).
Anyone had any apples lately?

9 posted on 04/16/2004 9:23:06 AM PDT by NotQuiteCricket (10 kinds of people in the world us and them.)
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To: cyborg
You're absolutely right.

We bought the nicest stuff from some Ndebele women who had set up on the street in Pilgrims Rest, which is a historic gold mining village in Mpumalanga.
The tourist trap shops were way overpriced.

10 posted on 04/16/2004 10:01:26 AM PDT by Constitution Day (FR needs your support... Become a Monthly Donor!)
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11 posted on 04/16/2004 10:14:58 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: cyborg
The more I look at them, the more they look the same.

Maybe a structural weakness in this type of shell. I'd be interested in finding an undamaged one of the same age.

12 posted on 04/16/2004 10:17:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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Now that would be a find!
13 posted on 04/16/2004 10:19:09 AM PDT by cyborg (Frakenfreude Radio... look out belowwwwwwwwwww!)
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To: eno_
IMHO...All of man has the knowldege necessary for survival.

I always laugh at the "invention" of the wheel. Watching a rock roll down a hill is sufficient to cause this invention. The "invention" part of the wheel is use or purpose.

I remember picking up little shells at the seashore when I was a kid and putting them in a box for whatever reason. I suppose if I was real bored, I would have thought of making a necklace out of them or creating a purpose to suit my wants. I didn't though. I did however paint the little flat rocks we found along the shore. One might consider it "creative" or "intelligent" but frankly, I think it's no big deal and thousands before me would think of the same thing.

14 posted on 04/16/2004 10:28:17 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: balrog666
75,000 year old Mardi Gras beads.

Back then, women had to cover their breasts to get them.

15 posted on 04/16/2004 10:50:47 AM PDT by Physicist
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Anthropology only ranks behind sociology and psychology in its devotion to poloitical correctness and leftist ideology. Please take their pronouncements with the proverbial grain of salt.
16 posted on 04/16/2004 10:53:08 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: eno_
We were genetically altered by aliens.
17 posted on 04/16/2004 10:59:14 AM PDT by dljordan
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Thanks for the ping!
18 posted on 04/16/2004 12:47:16 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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19 posted on 04/16/2004 5:52:41 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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Zulu beadwork is beautiful! My s-i-l's sister sent us some Zulu bedadworked Christmas tree ornaments,which are lovely.
20 posted on 04/16/2004 6:51:25 PM PDT by nopardons
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