[BossLady]

BOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Not on my birthday....come on now....... ;)

[Redcloak]

They've predicted a quake out in the desert; not in L.A.. Other than messing with the dove opener if it happens too close to September 1st, quakes out there don't do much to us. In fact, they're kinda fun. The big ones don't even do much around Palm Springs. My folks have ridden out a few 7+ quakes there with little more than a few pictures getting knocked over on one table.

[Colonel_Flagg]

Okay, so Bush now knows. What's he going to do about it?

< / sarcasm>

[BurbankKarl]

Good...clear some of the suckers out of here

[A CA Guy]

If Star Jones is doing The View out here and sits down at any time in CA, could happen...

[william clark]

Gee, ten years since the last big one, and he's giving himself a six-month window. Really going out on a limb, isn't he? If one happens six months later, he'll just say he was off a little, but still claim credit, no doubt.

[MAWG]

I hope it is a 10! Couldnt happen to a more deserving place. Maybe it'll send some of them free-loading, thieving Mojados back across the border where they belong!

[jragan2001]

I remember roughly ten years ago when quake researchers were predicting, with some accuracy (or so they thought!)
an earthquake would strike and be centered around the
Northern California town of Parkfield, and would register at least a 6 on the Richter Scale. Of course nothing happened, which goes to show that earthquakes will happen
when they want to.

[goldstategop]

Is it time to leave California? Well, we've been warned.

[mhking]

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

[novacation]

ping

[LadyDoc]

Oh, gee, living in southern California is too dangerous...

You guys should move here to Tornado alley instead. At least you can see tornadoes coming before they hit you...

[pollywog]

Yikes....our house is on top of the San Andreas Fault near the Pasadena border. WEll....I had better get the flashlights ready with fresh batteries....but where to store them safely is the question. We lost a porch and had some structure damage in the Sylmar and Northridge both!

[BJungNan]

Keep your shoes by the bed. Otherewise, there could be a lot of glass between your bare feet and where you last parked your shoes.

And stock up on velcro!

[SoCal Pubbie]

6.4 is NOT the big one.

[capitan_refugio]

The Russian-born seismologist at UCLA is predicting timing and magnitude of a projected earthquake. A Finnish-born seismologist at USC is doubtful.

The Russians and the Finns hate each other. UCLA and USC are rival schools.

I'm placing my money on the Trojans. They had a better year than the Bruins.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Well this stinks.

[tm22721]

This is good for Bush.

Part of the war on terra, dontcha know...

BUMP

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

[Jack Armstrong]

---

Let me explain my position in the controversial field of science in which we are involved. It is difficult for me to believe that I am right and the great men with great reputations say otherwise. However, this is not the first time in the history of science that such a thing has happened. In fact it is more the rule.

First let me talk about complex function theory (CFT). (As near as I can determine this has no relation to complex adaptive systems mentioned in "The Quark And The Jaguar." Gell-Mann.) CFT is a mathematical theory developed first by La Place (I believe) to predict the flow of heat. Chapter V in the book by Milne-Thompson, which you have, is a pretty good review of the subject. You do not have to know this material for us to make progress. Many people caused significant progress in CFT and they did not know the details. Also many famous men have added to the use of CFT and applied it to the flow of electricity, fluids and other things which obey LaPlace's equation (del^2 phi = 0). When I entered the field in 1947, CFT was still being developed. In fact it was 1966 when the ability to get the solution for the potential flow about arbitrary shapes was made possible by AMO Smith and John Hess at Douglas.

Since then some guys at Northrop and at Van Every & Associates (VE&A) made some significant innovative applications of CFT. Some of these applications still have not been properly brought into use on the "front lines" of engineering. I find myself in possession of some of these methods and no one to share them with. Further advances in the field can not be made without more people understanding and working on the application of these techniques. CFT can be used to improve airplane and ship design, weather prediction, earthquake prediction and surely other problems.

I have found that many top scientists and engineers are not aware of this possibility. I blame the use of large main frame computers to solve flow field problems by detailed network calculations for this paradox. It has made the understanding and manipulation of the basic equations seem unnecessary. I have talked to many top people at universities, government and industry and they have not kept their awareness of the power of CFT in the everyday world of engineering. I do not believe they have to know the details of CFT manipulation themselves. There are plenty of good mathematicians who can carry out the nitty gritty work of applications.

I also believe the Internet environment created by software designers for instant communications has made it impossible to do the trial and error "broken field running" required to solve the tough problems. I think we should get together and discuss this matter and figure how to get some more people working on this very important approach. I will go to San Diego or anywhere in SoCal any time to discuss and debate, if necessary, this subject.

Now for the big topic: the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. I can't believe that the intricate reasoning by the high priests of science trying to bring quantum theory into the 2nd Law has left us without a means to get numbers for the effort required to do creative work that does not involve energy. The use of entropy to guide us in our work was understood in 1900. I don't believe it is necessary to use quantum concepts to solve problems of aerodynamics, chemistry, mechanics, heat flow or any process where sub atomic processes are not involved. More important social, political, health, computer usage and many other problems are not covered.

Our world is getting more and more chaotic because of the lack of entropy numbers in our daily world. Can we discuss this problem. Can we get together with others who claim to know the 2nd Law and thrash this out. I claim the world ain't going to work right until we get this straight. Sorry if I have to disagree with the high priests of science but it is obvious that the world is not now working right. Right?

Hamlet said:
"The time is out of joint. Oh cursed spite,
That ever I was born to set it right."
I say:
"The time is out of joint. Oh happy plight,
That we now know how to set it right."

Let's do it!
Maurice (FARMER GATES) Cahn