[Redleg Duke]

It sounds to me like we have them on the ropes right now. It is a target-rich environment. They chose to change tactics, to stand and fight...always a mistake when you are facing an overwhelming foe.

Someone must have told them that Clinton was back in office.

[BrooklynGOP]

"It's ... very clear that we've got to get more senior Iraqis involved — former military types involved in the security forces," he said.

Shiites make up the majority, and it would've been in their favor to support our effort for the iraqi democracy. But now we are going to hire ex baathists (Sunnis) to operate the Iraqi military. That should put some pressure on the Shiites...

[Mikey]

"They chose to change tactics, to stand and fight...always a mistake when you are facing an overwhelming foe."

Sounds like the same statements made during Viet Nam. Underestimating an enemy is very dangerous

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"Hence the saying: One may KNOW how to conquer without being able to DO it."

"There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare."

"Poverty of the State exchequer causes an army to be maintained by contributions from a distance. Contributing to maintain an army at a distance causes the people to be impoverished."

"In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns."

"All warfare is based on deception."

"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat."

"When the enemy is close at hand and remains quiet, he is relying on the natural strength of his position."

"When in difficult country, do not encamp. In country where high roads intersect, join hands with your allies. Do not linger in dangerously isolated positions."

Sun Tzu, the art of war.

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These quotes are over 2,400 years old, haven't we learned anything yet?