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Victor Davis Hanson : Finish It or Forget It
VDH ^ | April 11, 2004 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 04/12/2004 10:47:53 AM PDT by quidnunc

This is a War – not terrorism, insurgency, or uprising

For about a year now, a baby-faced grotesque thug, Sadr, dressed up in a cleric's robes and backed by two or three thousand gangsters has held world-wide televised press conferences as he pompously boasted about his promised imposition of Iranian-style theocracy upon 26 million other Iraqis.

Forget that in most municipal elections in the first year of the reconstruction Iraqis had shown not much interest in his crackpot Shiite paradise on earth. Forget that this criminal was not a holy-man at all, but a murderer who shortly after the liberation of Iraq, had systematically put out hits on various rivals. Forget that he was a coward who was a mouse under Saddam's fascist police, and roared as a lion only after the Americans, whom he daily slurred, at the cost of their lives and treasure had freed him and his Chicago-style Costa Nostra. And forget that he was hardly a nationalist, but an Iranian toady who did the bidding of Teheran and wished to ruin southern Iraq in the same manner that his kindred self-appointed mullahs had wrecked Iran.

But do not forget that for some strange reason the most powerful military in the history of civilization was not allowed to move on this latter-day Jugurtha before his venom infected thousands beyond his immediate Mafia. The moment there was good proof in the days following the toppling of Saddam that Sadr had ordered and killed various rival Shiites, he should have been arrested, tried, and, if found guilty, hanged — at a time when the United States military was fresh from victory and still in a combat mode.

There is a lesson in the saga of Sadr here that we really must relearn about this entire war. The United States, because it is militarily powerful and humane in the way that it exercises that force, usually can pretty much do what it wishes in this war against terrorists. In every single engagement since October 2001 it has not merely defeated but obliterated jihadists in Afghanistan and Iraq. The only check on its power has been self induced: out of a misplaced sense of clemency it has often ceased prematurely the punishment it has inflicted on enemies — at Tora Bora, in the Sunni Triangle, during the looting of Baghdad, and now perhaps at Fallujah — and relented to enter into peace parleys, reconciliation, and reconstruction too early.

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(Excerpt) Read more at victorhanson.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; War on Terror
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To: Victoria Delsoul
****Let's not forget that the occupation of Germany took six years, and there was no resistance in Germany or Japan after their surrender. Germany and Japan recognized and accepted defeat. Their government and military were disseminated. There were curfews in place and people weren't armed. German western culture allowed for a smooth transition to democracy, and it allowed the allied forces such as the US, England, Soviet Union and France to rebuild Germany.****

Well yes! That's my point. Surely you see it. Establishing democracy in Iraq while the country is full of armed men and caches of weapons is impossible. First pacification, and that historically has meant the killing of a huge proportion of the fighting age males, removal of all weapons and then nation building. Bush is going about it assbackwards. It's a sure recipe for death and disaster ... for OUR men in uniform. This is unforgivable.
41 posted on 04/12/2004 7:58:57 PM PDT by mercy
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To: ohioWfan
You are so dense. What kind of argument is, 'shut up, you are dumb.' Are you about 14? I hold a radically different view than yours. I know that's tough for you to swallow here on FR the RW PC platform but get used to it.

There is someone out hear that does not hold to your one tracked low brow uneducated view of the world. Get used to it.
42 posted on 04/12/2004 8:03:58 PM PDT by mercy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the links.
43 posted on 04/12/2004 8:05:49 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: mercy
Well, I trust our military, and I have faith in our President. I'm not about to surrender.
44 posted on 04/12/2004 8:06:23 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry said he wasn't at the '71 plot-to-kill meeting, then, he was but voted NO, now he can't recall)
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To: Lady Heron
Sometimes I wonder what history teachers are teaching kids.

Our grandparents and great grandparents knew what was at stake in WWII. Roosevelt didn't need to worry that 40 percent of the electorate would hate America no matter what and another 20 percent were so clueless they would believe anything.

In today's world, every politician has to worry about what his actions will look like on the 10 o'clock news. The press does not want leaders who are decisive or effective. They want vacillating wimps who make decisions based on getting a hummer from a thonged fat chick. It is easier to control them, and easy to make decisiveness look like extremism.

This thing will be handled, in a month it won't seem like all that. But Sadr should have been put on a cold slab when the little jerk first started making trouble.

45 posted on 04/12/2004 8:34:25 PM PDT by hopespringseternal (People should be banned for sophistry.)
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To: mercy
"out hear??" LOL!

I bow to your high brow educated opinion.... LOL!

btw........my only 'love interest' is my husband of 27 years.......and he only sleeps with me.

Enjoy your solitude, mercy.

46 posted on 04/12/2004 8:52:34 PM PDT by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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