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The reason the incidence of red hair in Ireland and Libya is the same is because the two peoples are very much relatied -- from proto-Basques. The Basques are notoriously blue eyed, and do have some red hair; I have seen a Basque with reddish hair, but not out right orange-red like you find in Ireland. At any rate, the blue-eyed Basque element is what accounts for the blue eyes and blonde hair found in a large percentage of the Berbers of North Africa -- NOT from the Vandals as is so erroneously and popularly believed. In short the Libyans are largely proto-Basque-Hamitic, with Arabic overlay; the Irish are proto-Basque, separated from Basques-proper by several thousand years in a more northern environment which accounts for the more fair skind and hair among the Micks, who also, obviously have a minor, continental celtic overlay. It has often been remarked upon how closely the many Libyans resemble many Scots...
41 posted on 04/29/2004 12:08:09 AM PDT by JohCol (The DNA results are in on ALL of Scotland: the Picts were proto-Basques...)
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Ghaddafi in a kilt?????
48 posted on 04/29/2004 12:32:42 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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bttt
49 posted on 04/29/2004 12:37:15 AM PDT by nopardons
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Note also there was a Viking kingdom based in Dublin during the early middle ages which might account for some of those blond locks. ;)

As for the Celts-as-Basques thing, when one considers the great antiquity of the "tin route" (the trade route out of the central Mediterranean, around/stopping off in Iberia, and ending in Cornwall and vicinity) it seems fairly reasonable.

That said, I think more DNA testing and statistical analysis is required.

50 posted on 04/29/2004 1:11:56 AM PDT by Heatseeker
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Hellow man, Don`t mind my bad English. Firstly I want to make clear that the berber(we call oure self Amazigh) wich means free people are NOT Lybians!! There are berber tribes in Libia butt that is it. I am from berber origin (Atlas Mountains Morocco) now living in Holland. I am trying to search my identity. I red some artikels obout the Picts Living in Scotland that I found very interesting. I also red in another artikel written by a Scottish missionary, he wrote the article "The Berber oure distant cousins". I know that the Scottish people are a proud an heroic race that are not afraid. The berber are known for this also. Is Sean Connary ( I probably spelled it wrong) typically Scot because he lookes very much 100% like my grand father. I am not kidding. There are many berbers in my environment that look a lot like Scots. There are a lot of stories about Picts and Berbers. In the article from the Scot above was mentioned a tale about a Scot sailor that stranded(1850 +/-) at the coast of Morocco(were berber live) The custom of the berber was to kill every body who was strange to them. And what happened the berbers did not killed the scot. He was able to communicate with them. And he learned the berber a lot off crafts. He lived his whole life with these people and is considerd a Saint. The place Mogador was named after him. A missionary who travelled to morocco at that time met the Scot an identified his language as an old Gealic dialect. The missionary later travelled back and wrote the story named "the berber oure distant cousins". The missionary did some research about Scottisch names of the 7 greates tribes like Mac Donald etc. and found out that the biggest berber tribes living in the atlas mountains have almost the same names and also start the name with the distict Mac = M` I remember Mac Doughlas = M`Dougha I probably got the names wrong. The thing is that I lost the article that is very important for me and maybe for scots also. Anyhow does any wone off you knows more about this? Or have a different explenation why my grandfather lookes like oo7 Sean Connery??? Azul(berber for hellow)


62 posted on 09/17/2004 10:11:12 AM PDT by pure berber (The berber oure cousins??)
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