Posted on 04/09/2004 8:25:54 PM PDT by chance33_98
Parents Who Choose Not to Vaccinate Children Upset with Some in the Medical Community
Friday, April 09, 2004, 9:49:53 PM
By KCRG-TV9 News Anchor/Reporter Renee Chou TV9 Cedar Rapids Newsroom
Some eastern Iowa parents feel they're treated with hostility because they refuse to immunize their children. They've discovered that saying no to vaccines means that pediatric offices can say no to providing care to their children.
At 19 months old, Ambryia Mulnix has never felt a needle poke into her skin. Her mother, Arielle, says she's done her own research and comes to this conclusion on vaccines. Arielle told TV9, I don't feel there's a need for them. And Ive seen it can cause deaths too, so more safety, and my belief." But she soon discovered her belief shuts out pediatric care for Ambryia. Arielle says, "Ive been turned down at pediatricians, I can only go to the emergency room, or family doctor."
Iowa Health Physicians Clinic has had a policy for three years now, it does not provide routine, pediatric care to non-immunized children. Ken Anderson told TV9, It comes from the feeling that the immunizations are so important to children that it's such a strong feeling of ours, that if we can't come to an agreement of that fact, we feel it's unlikely we'll be a match on many other things."
Arielle says, "It's hurtful because Id rather not be judged on my belief and what I believe is best for my child." As a result, Arielle uses her health insurance to cover emergency room and urgent care center visits when Ambryia's sick.
Arielle feels fighting off infections will only make her baby stronger. But pediatricians see it differently. One doctor says, The germs are out there, and your body has to be able to fight it, if the body comes into contact. The immunizations are a way for your body to recognize that in a very safe way."
But this mom feels her beliefs, even if it means no pediatric care, are the safest for her child. It's better than getting pressured into getting her shots, and not being judged going in there."
Mercy Care Community Physicians do not have pediatricians, but say their family doctors provide routine care to non-immunized children.
Uh, the MMR vaccine has NEVER contained thimerosal
. And the only study on MMR and autism from GB that I'm aware of is the Wakefield study, and it has been thoroughly repudiated.
Take out the stupid mercury out of the stupid vaccines.
Here's a clue to rogueleader.
Thimerosal has been out of children's vaccines since 1999.
What is going to make the doctor more money, vaccinating children, or treating numerous cases of chickenpox?
Again, our pediatrician advised the shot was not necessary. I don't know the answer to this, but is the chicken pox vaccine good for a lifetime? And since chicken pox is dangerous for adults, why aren't we vaccinating adults who have never had chicken pox?
I am not against vaccinating for other life threatening diseases. But I question how chicken pox was thrown in to this category.
The pediatric group that was treating my kids, in 1993, did not think the vaccine was critical. In fact, they only recommended it when missing work would be a hardship for mom & dad. Five years later, it's critically important that school children are vaccinated for it. As a side note, the public schools lose money every time a child is absent. Maybe that plays a part in this.
But it is the doctors that recommend and administer the vaccine. You are saying they are either dishonest and in the pocket of vaccine manufacturers or stupid.
In 1993 the doctor said the shot was safe (not dangerous)and was necessary if I thought it was necessary. He said there was no reason for this shot other than to prevent lost work time for parents. Therefore, the doctor is not being unethical or criminal in administering it to his patients.
Since that time, the vaccination is being promoted as extremely important because of the dangers of chicken pox to children. How did we make that jump from being a choice to a strong health recommendation?
With regard to the law, you are right in that it is a requirement that parents can opt out of by making a formal announcement to the schools that they've elected not to vaccinate for personal or religious reasons. If chicken pox is a normal childhood disease, relatively harmless, and doctors put the choice of vaccination in the parents hands, then why are states requiring proof of vaccine, proof of disease, or formal written notification of refusal to vaccinate? It's being "encouraged" for a reason and I don't believe it's for the children.
You keep repeating the same thing, and it doesn't get more persuasive the more you write it.
You are alleging a conspiracy here, and I want proof. If physicians are "encouraging" (gee, it was law a few minutes ago) vaccines, and they know, as you do, that they are dangerous, it would seem that you have a pretty good legal option here.
The question comes back to why pediatricians would almost unanimously support vaccines if there was any evidence they were dangerous.
? Tom, I keep repeating Chicken Pox vaccine specifically and you seem to think I'm generalizing all vaccines. In none of my posts did I state that all vaccines are bad or dangerous. Doctors rightly recommend and strongly encourage vaccinations for various deadly and dangerous childhood diseases. Chicken pox is not one of them. I've already admitted that I was wrong about "the law" that children be vaccinated against CHICKEN POX. Since our school sent formal papers home to verify the vaccine (and did not note on the form that it was optional)I wrongly assumed it was a law.
I do not have proof that their is a "conspiracy". But I do know that
a) doctors make medical recommendations regarding the chicken pox vaccine (as my doctor did)and
b) the state government cares enough about the CHICKEN POX vaccination issue to require the schools to document that all children get vaccinated for CHICKEN POX or force the parents to formally declare,IN WRITING, that they are opposed to the CHICKEN POX vaccine. My suspicion (not conspiracy theory) is that the new requirement for proof of CHICKEN POX vaccine is not for the public welfare. I can't prove it. I don't know the reason for it.
Chicken pox in children isn't such a big deal. But, as with adults, my pediatrician said teens also are more likely to have complications. I had my son vaccinated at 11. The Dr was adamant that it be done before puberty.
There is a vaccine for parvo? We got our puppy from the animal shelter. Three days later, she was very sick and we found out it was parvo. She got better, obvously a mild case, and no other dogs were infected (they told us). I wonder if she had been vaccinated.
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