'Alamo' touches raw nerve in Mexico

CNN ^ | April 9th, 2004

[missyme]

There is scant comfort in the fact that Mexican forces won the 1836 battle of the Alamo: The movie closes with the Battle of San Jacinto one month later, which Mexico lost -- along with Texas. Within a dozen years, Mexico went on to lose most of what later became California, Colorado, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada and Arizona.

[eskimo]

'Alamo' touches raw nerve in Mexico

The Alamo slashed a mortal wound in the nerve of Mexico.

[Darksheare]

*Evil laugh*
Awww.. they're STILL sore over that?

[bayourod]

The Yellow Rose Of Texas?

[deport]

"Santa Ana was bangin' a whore at noon when Houston attacked.

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I wonder what he or she may have thought when the "twin sisters" belched their first volley? This may not have been heard round the world but.....

[sinkspur]

The Yellow Rose Of Texas?

I've heard, but I've never researched it.

[Enterprise]

Thanks for posting the map. When I go to cheer on the American side I will try to keep it in mind when the battle of San Jacinto commences.

[dennisw]

All true. Mexico City "owned" the SW for a grand total of 25 years. And never really owned it because the Indians were too fierce for them. So they invited in Anglo settlers and the rest is history.

[weegee]

This movie was horribly miscast. They got the right actor but for the wrong part.

Billy Bob Thorton should have been cast as the alcoholic fornicator "Bad Santa Anna".

[tet68]

"We Mexicans have always condemned him, classified him as a traitor and nothing more," said Echevarria. "But if that was all he was, then how could he have been president of Mexico 11 times?"

Hanging chads?

[Enterprise]

"he had some characteristics that made people follow him, even when he had repeatedly led them to disaster before."

Bill Cleenton?

[bayourod]

The Yellow Rose of Texas: The Elusive Truth
BY CHRISTOPHER GRAY
It's certainly one of the spicier tales in Texas lore: Connecticut native Emily West was a 20-year-old indentured servant on landowner James Morgan's plantation near present-day Baytown. Legend has Gen. Santa Anna taking a fancy to the striking mulatto when, in April 1836, his army passed through the area looking for supplies. On the morning of April 21, Sam Houston is said to have spied West making a champagne breakfast outside Santa Anna's tent, and reportedly remarked, "I hope that slave girl makes him neglect his business and keeps him in bed all day." With the general thus distracted, Houston's ragtag band of irregulars surprised the Mexican army at San Jacinto, securing Texas' independence and West's place in Lone Star legend. But she's not the yellow rose of the beloved song. Texas Folklore Society secretary Francis E. Abernethy's essay "The Elusive Emily West," published in 2001 as part of 2001: A Texas Folklore Odyssey (University of North Texas Press), reveals that the song was in fact printed as sheet music in 1858 by Firth, Pond, and Co. of New York City and is credited to a mysterious "J.K." "I cannot find anything," writes Abernethy, "that makes me think that 'Yellow Rose of Texas' is anything more than a successful generic minstrel song of its time."
http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2003-11-28/music_string7.html

[sinkspur]

Thanks for that.

[missyme]

That is too funny! Bad Santa Ana is right...

[Restorer]

Probably.

This Energizer Bunny aspect of Santa Ana's nature is I believe unique in history.

[missyme]

That kinda makes us sound like we took advantage of a easy situation....

[bayourod]

I believe she was the Yellow Rose. Mulattoes were referred to as "high yellers" by Texans. Of course the ladies historical societies certainly wouldn't want to think that a black girl was the Yellow Rose because so many of them relish the title themselves.

[weegee]

There have been many ruthless murderers in history. As far I know, none of the others ever wound up as the head of state of a major country 11 different times.

Fidel Castro has been elected numerous times without any challengers. He's serving a 5-year term and has been in power for 43 years now. He may not have been elected "11" times but then he has held onto his dictatorship.

[FITZ]

Hell the Spainish/Mexicans never really controlled any of the lands they lost to the USA in the 1840's

As far as I know there have never been any uprisings by any New Mexicans or Texans --- not even the descendents of the Spaniards --- to cut off from the USA and join with Mexico. The whole Atzlan movement is made up of immigrants from Mexico and first generation chicanos --- not the SW USA hispanics.

[FITZ]

"Get a grip, Mexico!"

Here is something really funny from the Mexican paper today --- but it's in Spanish --- someone has been shooting paintballs into Mexico and the Mexicans are getting really really mad.

http://www.diario.com.mx/nota.asp?notaid=4b280c37f5d6adde95399691bcd03ccf

Varios vecinos de esa colonia, ubicada al norponiente de Juárez, se abocaron a realizar un rastreo en busca de evidencias de la agresión, logrando localizar más “balas” de pintura tiradas sobre el arenoso terreno

[Jack Armstrong]

Just What IF?
What if Al Franken, Hillary Rodman Clinton & Andy Rooney were doing a updated politically correct version of the ALAMO?


Can we see history being rewritten to accommodate the north bound Mexicans walking to wards San Antonio? Crockett and his Kentuckians busy setting up barrels of fresh water so the poor Hispanics can be better able to stand the harsh desert climate. Travis and Bowie giving out drivers licenses so all may freely navigate easily from California to Florida. The Alamo would of course be a wonderful community center where free hospitalization and child care is lauded upon the misbegotten Mexican migrants... Any one else have in put?