Alamo movie filled with 'fairy tales'(Group says new film destroys memory of American heroes)

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[Cedar]

Hollywood fails again.

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[dandelion]

It is the reliance on the "La Pena" document that dooms this movie. It is unfortunate, considering that the battle scenes and the historical details are supposed to be very well done.

However, even if the La Pena details had not been included, the attempts to "humanize" the defenders of the Alamo by emphasizing their faults is a mistake. What seems to be reasonable characterisation in a book of several day's reading becomes glaringly overdone in a two-hour movie...

[navyblue]

This'll bring out those Texas boys!!

[fourdeuce82d]

the film has Crockett captured, bound and executed on his knees after the battle was over, "even though the historical evidence shows that he was killed fighting, in the thick of combat, during the battle.

I have no idea what the "historical record" show vis-a-vis how crockett died...but it seems kind of childish to get worked up over the paritculars- were our POWs that were tortured and murdered in NVN wussies?

Seems to me an insistance that they all died "Nobely Resisting the Spanish Hordes" is kind of gay. They volunteered to fight, they didn't run away...they died.

Remember Corregidor? Do we denigrate the memory of those guys if we acknowledge they were captured?

I don't think so.

For that matter...the Passion, which most of us liked, showed Jesus asking God to lift his burden from him...does that make Him a coward?

[Humidston]

What a sad shame that Disney has turned into such a trashy company. Walt Disney would weep if he knew how Michael Eisner has trashed his beloved company.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

It's just a movie.

I would prefer that it be historically accurate, but I didn't invest any money in it and therefore have no say.

Other than at the box office.

[Kirkwood]

Hollywood = Cesspool

[Arkinsaw]

Hollywood does indeed suck, but there is more to the Alamo story than the old popular mythology told.

Crockett didn't much like his role in the Creek Indian War and that's no secret. Calling it a My Lai massacre is propagandistic in itself, but Crockett didn't care for it much.

Sam Houston was a drinker and got a little strange sometimes. I have no idea if the movie portrays him badly but being a drinker doesn't make him unworthy of our respect.

The story of Crockett getting executed has been around for awhile so its not like Hollywood made it up. Even with the execution story I haven't heard that story told in a way that didn't make Crockett look brave. Brave fighting off the enemy or brave facing execution. Is the difference that big?

Chances are that Crockett did indeed feel the pressure of his reputation as he headed toward battle heavily outnumbered. Its no crime to show that as long as the movie portrays the truth that he stayed and fought to the end. Lots of people who end up heroes are conflicted about it.

All that being said, this movie probably does suck and it probably does mutilate the legend based on who is putting it out.

[dandelion]

It wouldn't be a problem, were it true - but unfortunately, the account of Crockett's surrender is blatantly false; the La Pena document, the only document that claims Crockett surrendered ,is a forgery. There are many reputable eyewitness accounts FROM THE SURVIVORS OF THE ALAMO that give credible, consistent testimony to the deaths of Crockett, Travis, and Bowie.

All historical and traditional accounts are well documented, and were not challenged until the so-called "La Pena" document surfaced. That document was widely hailed as truth, until it was revealed to be a forgery in the 1990's.

Sadly, the same publications and institutions that hailed the La Pena document as true didn't trumpet the discovery of it's falsehood; instead, they simply let the matter lie. The result is the birth of lies, marketed as truth, regarding the defenders of the Alamo.

[dix]

As a fifth generation Texan, I don't think it's a good idea if I respond at this time. Even though I have been a member of FR since '98, if I replied right now Jimrob would surely ban me at least for thirty days. This topic is near, and dear to my heart.

[Tanniker Smith]

You know, Disney managed to get something right when it had Fess Parker swinging away at the end of the Davey Crockett series. (You couldn't blame them for not showing Crockett biting the dust in a kiddie flick, especially since they didn't alter history while doing it.)

Shame they're screwing around with it now.

TS

[Inyo-Mono]

I hear you. My ancestors were neighbors of Crockett's parents in the 1780s and 90s.

[seastay]

Contrast this movie which is being passed over by the media to the "Passion of Christ" with it's screenplay pretty much verbatim to the gospels! We are living in an age where the truth is being changed in to lies and lies are being sold as the truth and it's sorry to know the ones who loose are the young minds sowed by these seeds of confusion.

[Licensed-To-Carry]

Damn Right.

Being a fifth generation Texican myself, I'll just believe this information below instead of the Disney/Eisner bullsh*t version.

Mrs. Susana Dickinson, the wife of Capt. Almeran Dickinson, and her 18-month-old daughter were the only Anglo survivors at the Alamo. She is reported as having said, "I recognized Col. Crockett lying dead and mutilated between the church and the two-story barrack building and even remember seeing his peculiar cap, lying by his side."

Joe, a slave owned by William Travis, and Enrique Esparza, the eight-year-old son of Gregorio Esparza, who was in Capt. Seguin's company, gave very similar accounts of Crockett's death, that he was killed fighting to the end.

Mexican Sergeant Felix Nunez reported in his diary that "this tall American with a long buckskin coat had a charmed life." Of the many soldiers who took deliberate aim at him and fired, not one ever hit him." But Crockett, on the other hand, "never missed a shot. He killed at least eight of our men, besides wounding several others. My lieutenant sprang at him and dealt him a deadly blow with his sword, just above the right eye, which felled him to the ground. In an instant, he was pierced by no less than 20 bayonets."

[rogueleader]

This is like making a movie about the battle of Thermopylae and focusing on the syphilis infections of a few of the men.

Like making a movie about a few men who storm the beach at Normandy on D-Day and focusing on the male pattern baldness of the sergeant.

Like making a movie about 9/11 and focusing on something the US did 40 years ago in southeast Asia.

Aargh. I am really angry, but I will just express myself in some better, constructive way now. Okay. I'm going to skip the movie.

REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!!!!

[Jeff Head]

The people who made this movie are lying and distorting history and they know they are doing it (at least as regards Crockett's death and the proven frauduent La Pena account).

They are not friends of America or of the traditional lifestyle our liberty begets or the moral principles upon which it all rests.

As a native Texan (ven though I now live and work in Idaho) I for one will not go and see it, although it is normally exactly the type of movie I would spend money to go and see.

[brushcop]

Did we really expect anything different from Hollyweird? My heroes are not cut off at the knees, who needs to see that trash?

RB

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A new movie set to open this weekend entitled "The Alamo" is filled with revisionist history and political correctness, claims a pro-military nonprofit organization.

In a statement, Freedom Alliance slammed Michael Eisner and Walt Disney Pictures, the film's maker, for rewriting history in the movie, which is scheduled to open April 9.

"The movie reads more like a Disney fairy tale and promotes a politically correct revisionist agenda aimed at destroying a traditional American hero," said B. Forrest Clayton, a Freedom Alliance visiting fellow.

I can't imagine. After all, Pearl Harbor was totally accurate.

/ sarcasm