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To: Bill Hutton III
Article IV, Section 3: "New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state ..."

So this idea is unconstitutional.

If it wasn't, than the party that controls Congress could divide a state packed with its members into 51 small states and get 100 new Senators.
40 posted on 04/07/2004 2:36:02 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: You Dirty Rats
Another way to look at this is that California can be heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual but it can't be asexual.

Or one could say that since California has a big anti-nucular lobby, fission of the State shouldn't happen.
42 posted on 04/07/2004 2:44:22 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: You Dirty Rats
How does West Virginia fit in that?
53 posted on 04/07/2004 11:49:51 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: You Dirty Rats
Article IV, Section 3: "New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state ..."

So this idea is unconstitutional.

Thanks for bringing up this most important aspect, which I completely forgot, and which the author completely failed to mention.

If it wasn't, than the party that controls Congress could divide a state packed with its members into 51 small states and get 100 new Senators.

Good point.

55 posted on 04/08/2004 12:04:34 AM PDT by heleny (http://www.save187.com/)
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To: You Dirty Rats
Article IV, Section 3: "New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state ..."

"... without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

With the consent of the CA legislature and of the Congress, why would it be unconstitutional to divide CA?


If it wasn't, then the party that controls Congress could divide a state packed with its members into 51 small states and get 100 new Senators.

With all their consent, why not?

67 posted on 04/08/2004 1:33:11 PM PDT by heleny (http://www.save187.com/)
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To: You Dirty Rats
No, the Proposal is not Unconstitutional:

The US Constitution says, "New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union..."

and tells us exactly how to do it:

with, "the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

As the California Constitution says: "All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for their protection, security, and benefit,and they have the right to alter or reform it when the public good may require."

The net effect over-all will be more Republican senators and more Republican electoral votes, but the liberal wackos in San Francisco and LA will also "benefit" - They will have the opportunity to run riot without us slowing them down any more. Give the liberal legislators exactly what they want - they can be the ‘Pollute Bureau’ of their own People's Republics (LA & SF).

It's like cutting out a cancer before it’s too late.
68 posted on 04/08/2004 2:07:07 PM PDT by Bill Hutton III
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