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THE PROOF THAT THIS IS THE "FACE OF CHRIST"
London Mirror ^ | April 3rd, 2004 | David Edwards

Posted on 04/05/2004 5:36:35 PM PDT by missyme

IT'S been called the longest-running hoax in history - an 800-year-old religious riddle that's taken in popes, scientists and believers from all faiths.

The Turin Shroud has been either worshipped as divine proof that Christ was resurrected from the grave or dismissed as a fraud created by medieval forgers.

But new evidence suggests the shroud might be genuine after all.

(I COULD NOT GET THE PICTURE TO SHOW THAT IS ON THE London Mirror SITE?)

HAUNTING: The face on the shroud

As Mel Gibson's film The Passion Of The Christ rekindles interest in Jesus, stitching on the shroud which could have been created only during the messiah's lifetime has been uncovered.

At the same time, tests from 1988 that dated the shroud to between 1260 and 1390 have been thrown into doubt.

Swedish textiles expert Dr Mechthild Flury-Lemberg, who discovered the seam at the back of the cloth during a restoration project, says: "There have been attempts to date the shroud from looking at the age of the material, but the style of sewing is the biggest clue.

"It belongs firmly to a style seen in the first century AD or before."

Her findings are being hailed as the most significant since 1988, when scientists controversially carbon-dated the 14ft-long cloth to medieval times, more than 1,000 years after Jesus died.

Yet experts now say the team unwittingly used cloth that had been added during a 16th-century restoration and it could have been contaminated from handling.

Mark Guscin, of the British Society for the Turin Shroud, says: "The discovery of the stitching along with doubt about the carbon-dating all add to the mountain of evidence suggesting this was probably the shroud Jesus was buried in.

"Scientists have been happy to dismiss it as a fake, but they have never been able to answer the central question of how the image of that man got on to the cloth."

Barrie Schwortz, who in 1978 took part in the first scientific examination of the shroud, says: "I was a cynic before I saw it, but I am now convinced this is the cloth that wrapped Jesus of Nazareth after he was crucified."

THE history of the cloth - which bears the ghostly image of a bearded man - is steeped in mystery.

The first documented reference was in 1357, when it was displayed in a church in Lirey, France. The cloth astonished Christians as it showed a man wearing a crown of thorns and bearing wounds on his front, back and right-hand side.

He also had a wrist wound, which confused some pilgrims who thought Jesus was nailed to the cross through his hands. Scientists have since discovered the wrists were used as the hands could not support the body's weight.

Before it arrived in France, it is thought the shroud was known as the Edessa burial sheet, given to King Abgar V by one of Jesus's disciples.

For the next 1,200 years it was kept hidden in the Iraqi city, brought out only for religious festivals. In 944 it is thought to have turned up in Constantinople, Turkey, before being stolen by the French knight Geoffrey de Charny during the Fourth Crusades.

It soon became Europe's most-revered religious artefact, although it was scorched in a fire in 1532. In 1578 it was moved to Turin in northern Italy and was frequently paraded through the streets to huge crowds.

Yet while the shroud attracts hundreds of thousands of pilgrims when it goes on display, it was not photographed until 1898. The photographer, Secondo Pia, was amazed at the incredible depth and detail revealed on the negative.

There were even rumours that the shroud had healing qualities after the British philanthropist Leonard Cheshire took a disabled girl to see it in 1955. After being given permission to touch it, 10-year-old Josephine Woollam made a full recovery.

But it wasn't until 1978 that scientists were allowed to examine the shroud for the first time.

The Shroud of Turin Research Project spent 120 hours examining the cloth in minute detail but was unable to explain how the image had got there. Barrie Schwortz, the project's photographer, says: "We did absolutely every test there was to try to find out how that image had got there.

"We used X-rays, ultra-violet light, spectral imaging and photographed every inch of it in the most minute detail, but we still couldn't come up with any answers.

"We weren't a bunch of amateurs. We had scientists who had worked on the first atomic bomb and the space programme, yet we still couldn't say how the image got there. The only things we could say was what it isn't: that it isn't a photograph and it wasn't a painting.

"It's clear that there has been a direct contact between the shroud and a body, which explains certain features such as the blood, but science just doesn't have an answer of how the image of that body got on to it."

A SECOND study was carried out in 1988, when scientists cut a sliver from the edge of the shroud and subjected it to carbon-dating.

Carbon has a fixed rate of decay, which means that it is possible to accurately measure when the plant materials that formed the basis of the cloth were harvested.

The announcement that the shroud was a fake was made on October 13, 1988, at the British Museum. Scientists compared those who still thought the shroud was authentic to flat-earthers.

It led to the humiliating spectacle of the then Cardinal of Turin, Anastasio Alberto Ballestrero, admitting the garment was a hoax.

The Catholic Church also accepted the scientists' findings - an embarrassing admission given that Pope John Paul II had kissed the shroud eight years earlier.

But experts now say the carbon-dating results are wrong. Ian Wilson, co-author of The Turin Shroud: Unshrouding The Mystery, says they were flawed from the moment the sample was taken.

He says: "What I found quite incredible was that when they had all the scientists there and ready to go, an argument started about where the sample would come from.

"This went on for some considerable time before a very bad decision was made that the cutting would come from a corner that we know was used for holding up the shroud and which would have been more contaminated than anywhere else."

Marc Guscin, author of Burial Cloths Of Christ, believes the most compelling evidence for the shroud's authenticity comes from a small, blood-soaked cloth kept in a cathedral in Oviedo, northern Spain.

The Sudarium is believed to have been used to cover Jesus's head after he died and, unlike the shroud, its history has been traced back to the first century. It contains blood from the rare AB group found on the shroud.

Mark says: "Laboratory tests have shown that these two cloths were used on the same body.

"The fact that the Sudarium has been revered for so long suggests it must have held special significance for people. Everything points towards this cloth being used on the body of Jesus of Nazareth."

Yet despite the latest discoveries, there are still many sceptics.

Professor Stephen Mattingly, from the University of Texas, says the image could have been created by bacteria which flourish on the skin after death. "This is not a miracle," he says. "It's a physical object, so there has to be a scientific explanation. With the right conditions, it could happen to anyone. We could all make our own Turin Shroud."

Another theory, put forward by South African professor Nicholas Allen, is that the image was an early form of photography.

However fierce the controversy, the shroud is still a crowd-puller. When it last went on display in 2000, more than three million people saw it. Many more visitors are expected when it next goes on show in 2025.

Mark believes the argument will rage on. He says: "The debate will go on and on because nobody can prove one way or another if this was the shroud that covered the body of Jesus. There simply isn't a scientific test of 'Christness'.

"But there are lots of pointers to suggest it was."


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1 posted on 04/05/2004 5:36:37 PM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme
If this is true, then he kinda looked like John Kerry. Hmmmm.
2 posted on 04/05/2004 5:41:39 PM PDT by stubernx98
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3 posted on 04/05/2004 5:42:56 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: stubernx98
I don't know about that picture, it looks like a very Old Man not a man of 33 yrs but then again do we have any idea what people truly looked like 2000 yrs ago?
4 posted on 04/05/2004 5:46:47 PM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme
(I COULD NOT GET THE PICTURE TO SHOW THAT IS ON THE London Mirror SITE?)


5 posted on 04/05/2004 5:46:59 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: missyme
2 Corinthians 5: 7
6 posted on 04/05/2004 5:47:12 PM PDT by Maria S (Assigned parking only...all violators will be towed)
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To: hole_n_one
Great! Thank You! as I said this looks like a very Old Man
7 posted on 04/05/2004 5:47:58 PM PDT by missyme
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To: stubernx98
Bite yer tongue!... er, your fingers.
8 posted on 04/05/2004 5:48:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: missyme
Blood group AB is the "universal receiver," i.e., can take a transfusion from any other type, right? Blood group O is the "universal donor." Since Jesus shed his blood for us all, it seems logical that Jesus would have type O, not type AB. Yet through His blood all may be received into the Kingdom.

But anyway, why not do a carbon-dating anaysis on the thread which appears to be sewn in the ancient style?
9 posted on 04/05/2004 5:52:27 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: missyme
I believe the image on the Shroud may have been formed inadvertently when a piece of linen was used to cover a stone image and remained in proximity to the stone for a prolonged period of time. Ionizing radiation from the naturally-occurring radioactive material found in many kinds of rock might have provided the radiation source. The Byzantine history of the Mandylion provides a reasonably good scenario for how such a thing might have come to pass, but I haven't the time or energy to go completely into it right now. Whatever the case, the Shroud is not your garden-variety relic, and I think it a very big mistake to perceive of it in that way.
10 posted on 04/05/2004 5:54:08 PM PDT by Agnes Heep (Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster)
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To: missyme
I would suspect that people aged much more quickly back then - shorter life expectancies, and living in a hot climate.

I have also read how somehow baccteria or other contaminants in the fibers tested could have thrown off the carbon dating.
11 posted on 04/05/2004 5:57:55 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Agnes Heep
Interesting.

To me the image looks more like Medieval art, either painting or sculpture, than it does a man.
12 posted on 04/05/2004 5:59:55 PM PDT by rogueleader
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To: Agnes Heep
You rightly point out that there may be other methods for producing a photographic negative like the one on the Shroud of Turin.

On the other hand, no one has come up with any Medieval or earlier photographic negatives except for this one.

13 posted on 04/05/2004 6:00:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Agnes Heep
The other issue is the image is one dimensional, as an artist would paint it, with a foreshortened nose etc. When a cloth is wrapped around a three dimensional object such as a face, it touches the sides of the face, the cheeks and temples. When unwrapped it would be wider than the face and result in a distorted image. My opinion-- this is a fake.
14 posted on 04/05/2004 6:00:57 PM PDT by rageaholic
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To: Maria S
exactly ...
15 posted on 04/05/2004 6:01:12 PM PDT by Bobby777 (John 3:17-18, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: stubernx98
"If this is true, then he kinda looked like John Kerry. Hmmmm."

Some might use this as an argument that it is fake.
16 posted on 04/05/2004 6:02:04 PM PDT by Socratic (Yes, there is method in the madness.)
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To: cvq3842
Agreed...I think we as modern people tend to visualize what we think of a man who would be 33, Sinless, Divine
G-d in human flesh. I have a vision in my mind what Jesus might look like but I know I am totally off base....
17 posted on 04/05/2004 6:02:22 PM PDT by missyme
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To: muawiyah
There is a group of people who believe that the Shroud image IS actually an early photographic image, and that it was produced by Leonardo da Vinci. They believe that the face is the face of Leonardo himself, exposed onto the fabric via an early "pin hole" camera, or camera obscura, as it was called then.

Colorful theory, but..........just a theory.

18 posted on 04/05/2004 6:06:01 PM PDT by EggsAckley (.......John Kerry suffers from delusions of adequacy........)
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To: Agnes Heep
Probably been pointed out dozens of times, and I'm sure true believers have an explanation at the ready. . .

But the shroud image is two-dimensional, like a photograph or a painting.

Had it been draped over or wrapped around a head, when laid flat the image would be "panoramic" and distorted, like a projection map of the globe. The ears would be out to the side and visible as in a straight-on view, and so forth.

Notice how slender the face appears in the shroud image. Even a slender face would appear wider when the shroud was laid flat, if the image was formed (as claimed) while draped over the face, or wrapped around it.

19 posted on 04/05/2004 6:08:14 PM PDT by In_25_words_or_less (It's more a guideline than a rule ;o)
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To: hole_n_one
You know, this doesn't look like a 33-year old.
20 posted on 04/05/2004 6:10:54 PM PDT by GigaDittos ("Vote Democrat, it's easier than getting a job")
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