[Cronos]

Ronnie: China actually built a huge wall to keep immigrants out...

Ha HA HA! The chinese built walls to keep the nomads from raiding the Chinese towns. THe first Chinese Emperor united these walls. The walls weren't to keep immigrants out, but to keep raiders out.

[ronnieb]

Same thing, my friend, they wanted to be LEFT alone, I know exactly why the Chinese built the wall, it was to preserve and protect their Chineseness, which they apparently kind of liked. They closed their culture to the outside world for hundreds of years, so did Japan. Did you miss that memo? Do you have another laughable spin on that? You avoid the point, on purpose, you aim at little stuff and ignore the question. Which is can White westerners discuss the long term effects of immigration on society without the hooded, racist taliban, swooping down and hurling the R word around. It is not racist to discuss or be concerned about preserving one's culture. As history, and modern times, clearly shows, all peoples do it, those among us that want to prevent that discussion from taking place among ONE group of people only, western whites, are the real racists among us.