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To: William Terrell
I do have a problem with making citizens of the births of illegal immigrant mothers.

Sorry, the Constitution, which I'm sworn to support and defend, as are you assuming you really were a Marine, defines a citizen as one born (or naturalized) in this country. Live with it.

Amendment XIV: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside (prior to the 14th amendment, the Constitution did not explicitly define citizenship, but it did imply that a person born in the United States was a citizen, in the section requiring that only a "natural born citizen" or one a citizen when the Constitution was ratified, could become President. TFB for the Governator).

El Gato. Are you in this country legally? Where is your allegiance?

I was born in Nebraska, in 1949. As for my allegiance, I am:

Captain El Gato
USAFR(ret)

1,003 posted on 04/07/2004 10:55:49 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: El Gato
Amendment XIV: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside (prior to the 14th amendment, the Constitution did not explicitly define citizenship, but it did imply that a person born in the United States was a citizen, in the section requiring that only a "natural born citizen" or one a citizen when the Constitution was ratified, could become President. TFB for the Governator).

This is the 14th amendment. It was proposed before the war and contributed greatly to the hostilities. Before the war, a state, under it's power to determine the electorate, awarded citizenship, and these were, by virtue of state citizenship, US citizens.

The 14th amendment is the moving force behind the destruction of the form of government designed by the framers. It invalidated large sections of the state constitutions.

It placed individuals in direct line of fire from federal legislation, when before it's ratification, except for few exceptions, it could not directly affect individual citizens. The power of granting citizenship at the national level gave it that power.

This amendment is the single most cause of the cultural and social disintegration we see now. Shepardize it and see SC cases that condoned expansion of the national government previously denied.

However, legislation can be enacted under this amendment to modify the process of automatic citizenship for illegal alien mother that drop their babies between crop rows seeking to create an anchor for themselves and the rest of their family.

This is a vile and destructive practice which gains the country nothing but those who wish to suck off its bounty and owe allegiance only to their home country.

You support this fraud, evidently. So, I would not say that your allegiance to America is not close to perfect. Service in the United States Air Force Reserve means nothing to me. Live with that.

Did you, and your parents, come to this country legally?

1,010 posted on 04/08/2004 9:54:02 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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