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To: justshutupandtakeit
One very relevant point to this whole discussion is this:

Richard Perle resigned from his position as head of the Defense Policy Board soon after the war in Iraq began last March, when even his most ardent supporters realized that his blatant conflict of interest in the Global Crossing case was going to be an albatross around the neck of the Bush administration.

Perle remained on the Defense Policy Board as a member, and eventually resigned that post in February of this year. But not before uttering this quote for the ages after David Kay admitted that the intelligence community had clearly been incorrect about its characterization of the threat of WMDs in Iraq:

"I have always thought our intelligence in the Gulf has been woefully inadequate."

Now how's that for utter arrogance, and utter bullsh!t on the part of Perle. If what Perle said was true, then he was lying his @ss off during the months leading up to the invasion of Iraq in March 2003, when he and every other lackey in the Bush administration was running around claiming that our intelligence was accurate, and these WMDs posed an imminent threat to the U.S.

There's no question in my mind that the Bush administration is now looking at the CIA as the dupe in this whole affair -- to serve as the scapegoat for "inaccurate information" that led up to the war (the fact that nobody will pay a price for this "blunder" is a clear sign to me that this has been orchestrated from the start). In this respect, the "pre-war intelligence" fiasco will be forgotten just as quickly as we've forgotten about that disgraceful propaganda campaign before Gulf War I -- when those poor Kuwaiti women testified about all those alleged atrocities committed by Iraqi troops in Kuwait (their stories were fabricated, and it was later learned that these women were all family members of Kuwaiti embassy staff in Washington).

65 posted on 03/31/2004 2:07:02 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE north strong and free.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Oh, yeah and the Global Crossing matter is sooo important I can hardly turn on the tv without hearing about or pick up a newspaper without having multi-page front page stories about it. NOT. It is completely irrelevent to anything. Even the nutjobs are not trying to tie it to Bush unless they are spelling it Haliburton. Talk about a non-starter. Perle's resignation is of no importance other than as an indication of how a patriot did not allow the RATmedia any chance to get at Bush using something of no significance whatsoever.

You are spreading falsehoods about Bush's statements as to why we went to war. He NEVER said Iraq was an imminent threat. Do you believe everything DU claims? What WAS significant was that it was Terror Central and did not show that it had gotten rid of the weapons which THE ENTIRE WORLD BELIEVED HE HAD not just "the intelligence community." Even his own generals thought he had them. It is still not clear that he didn't. It took years after the first war before they were found and that only happened because his sons-in-law defected and told the UN. However, anyone who has even a slight degree of knowledge of these matters understands that many of these are binary and are not kept around ready to use but become so after mixing. We found plenty of shells for bio/chem payloads for artillary as well as for missiles. We found protective suits for his military and plans and components for all manner of prohibited weaponry.

Thousands of Kuwaitis were killed by the Iraqis, many were kidnapped and taken to Iraq and imprisoned for years. So you can take your Saddam Rehabilitation Project elsewhere it won't go here. Propaganda is used in war and there was some of it used in 1990 but nothing that changed anything. We were not going to allow Saddam to vastly increase his power by taking that country as a stepping stone before invading Saudi Arabia. Only irresponsible and ignorant fools would comptemplate such a thing such as John Kerry and Pat Buchanan.

Perle's comment about intelligence is hardly a blockbuster. No one believed we had great intelligence capability in Iraq. Much of the perceived danger was precisely because our agencies had been weakened, compromised and thoroughly undermined by your RAT allies. However, we did not depend on our agencies entirely in any case. They agreed with all the others such as the French, Iranian, Italian, British, German. But the point is that Saddam had to show he had destroyed them and he refused to do so. And as a result he sits in a jail unable to torture, murder and maim at his pleasure. I am sure that distresses you greatly.

There will be no scapegoating because it doesn't even matter except to the Bush haters and RAT lovers. Bush's actions were correct and he would do it again in a heartbeat. Terror Central is no more and the Islamaniacs across the world realize that unless they can dislodge us from Iraq their time in coming to an end.
66 posted on 03/31/2004 2:32:23 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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