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Goss Questions Truthfulness of Clarke’s 2002 Testimony- could launch investigation soon
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| 3-25-2004
| Ethan Wallison
Posted on 03/25/2004 2:44:08 PM PST by brothers4thID
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To: ladyinred
"His obvious perjury is why the rats have been out there attacking the attacks against Clark with such a vengeance today. They have got to head this off at the pass so to speak."
Isn't this how the infamous leaked "memo" said they would proceed? Your comment is exactly why they screaming to high heaven today. I will be pleasantly surprised to see Goss pull this off. But don't look to the alphabet-bs stations to report it.
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posted on
03/25/2004 10:32:40 PM PST
by
bornintexas
(..Release your military records, John F'n Kerry!)
To: hoosiermama
I couldn't agree with you more, mama, we desperately NEED some truth and the big voice4s out there, this leftist attack has gotten way beyond sanity, if we don't get it under control now, we are lost forever, the left will win, they know how to play filthy.
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posted on
03/25/2004 10:46:00 PM PST
by
oreolady
(Wanted: new tag line)
To: brothers4thID
bump
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posted on
03/25/2004 11:12:43 PM PST
by
rwfromkansas
("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
To: Enduring Freedom
Any handy FR excerpts from the book anywhere?
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posted on
03/25/2004 11:14:44 PM PST
by
rwfromkansas
("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
To: Pukin Dog
Can't sleep was thinkin about those emails......Hope there's enough in them to hang him high!
Condi mentioned she had to email him twice to get him to attend the required security meetings....That he wasn't showing up (possibly more than twice)..........He obviously has a problem with doing what a superior wants or is it just with what Condi wanted.
I guess what I'm asking is does Clarke have a problem with Condi? Her race, her gender or her intelligence?
OTOH Did he know something and neglect to pass it on....Is that why he pointing the finger at everyone else?
I know I'm impatient!
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posted on
03/25/2004 11:24:51 PM PST
by
hoosiermama
(Wonder if Clarke will make enough on his book to pay for his legal fees for perjury?)
To: el_texicano; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; onyx; Happy2BMe; potlatch; jennyp
If Clarke goes in front of a current committee and swears his book statements he is now repeating before the committee are true yet his 2002 Congressional hearing testimony is not true then Clarke is guilty of deliberate and wilful perjurous testimony before Congress.
Clarke cannot have it both ways and as he is now also a media consultant while testifying he is in direct conflict of interest and actually getting financial benefits for testifying.
Lets have Sean Hannity go testify as a terrorism expert while working for ABC and FNC.
Same deal Lucille!
Several things are true about Richard Clarke:
He is yellow about military action.
He lies with deliberate gay abandon.
He gets paid by all sides at once.
Viacom, Simon & Shyster, CBS, 60 Minutes, ABC, and whoever is possibly paying his "expenses" while he shills for John Kerry while working for ABC,
He is a whore for any buck lying in an alley.
He is a lifelong Republican, just like Sarah Brady and Carolyn McCarthy are.
He is in deep stuff.
And it will get much deeper fast.
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posted on
03/26/2004 12:16:50 AM PST
by
devolve
(................... ...........................Hello from Sunny South Florida!..........)
To: brothers4thID
Commissioner Lehman said in the 9/11 Hearing that Clarke had worked with the commission privately and testified off the record for 15 or 16 hours and that his public testimony was in direct contrast to his private testimony!
He PLANNED this a year ago. He knew he was going to have his moment of fame. He testified privately saying one thing and testified publicly saying the polar opposite.
That is deliberate! Think about the planning involved in this...to work with the 9/11 Commission for a year telling them one thing privately...then come out with a book and testify to something else publicly. Amazing. And perjury, I would imagine.
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posted on
03/26/2004 3:08:19 AM PST
by
Peach
To: devolve
If he's a lifelong republican how come his only political donations are to Democrats?
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posted on
03/26/2004 3:15:41 AM PST
by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
To: piasa; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; onyx
Exactly
Seminar prep
Ever hear a Republican or Conservative call a talk radio show and pull a long introduction that they are a lifelong Republican and only voted Republican until now BUT
Same lame crud all the liberal idiots use
Recall what Richard Clarke just said in his 911 hearing testimony?
In 2000 I went in to vote for GW and requested A REPUBLICAN BALLOT
What BS
There are no dem or Republican ballots
What 3rd world country has Clarke been watching elections in?
Caught in another lie.
The biggest yet.
Let him explain that away.
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posted on
03/26/2004 4:34:37 AM PST
by
devolve
(................... ...........................Hello from Sunny South Florida!..........)
To: devolve; All
A nagging worry is going through my mind this morning, and haven't had my coffee yet.
What does Clarke becoming an ABC consultant do for his "legal" status? Can he now claim some kind of protection because of it, like refusing to disclose sources, etc?
We are in for a rough ride, friends. Better buckle up.
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posted on
03/26/2004 5:12:49 AM PST
by
jacquej
To: hoosiermama
"Efforts to reach several Intelligence Committee Democrats on Thursday were unsuccessful."
Thanks, hm. The above is one of my favorite sentences ever. No one will ever "reach them" unless they are bringing some money.
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posted on
03/26/2004 5:54:40 AM PST
by
Bahbah
To: Howlin
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posted on
03/26/2004 5:56:46 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
To: devolve
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posted on
03/26/2004 6:51:21 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
To: cyncooper
Clarke added, That process, which was initiated in the first week in February [2001], decided in principle in the spring to add to the existing Clinton strategy and to increase CIA resources, for example, for covert action, five-fold, to go after al-Qaeda. Posted yesterday...Someone mentioned on talk radio that what we need to do is prove that Clarke's 2002 statement is correct in reference to the "five-fold" increase in funding for the CIA. I have been searching, but most documents I have found state that the CIA budget is "secret". However, I did find this:
The FY 2002 Intelligence Budget: A Five-Year Plan
The budget request submitted by the President includes a substantial increase for programs funded in the National Foreign Intelligence Program. The Committee believes this funding increase should represent the first installment of a five-year effort to correct serious deficiencies that have developed over the past decade in the Intelligence Community.
In this budget, the Committee seeks to highlight four priority areas that must receive significant attention in the near term if intelligence is to fulfill its role in our national security strategy. Those are:
Revitalizing the National Security Agency (NSA) Correcting deficiencies in human intelligence
Addressing the imbalance between intelligence collection and analysis, and
Rebuilding a robust research and development program.
The budget lays out a five-year plan for addressing each of these areas.
Source (warning: slow loading .pdf file) According to the articles I have found, the budget blueprint was unveiled by Bush in Feb 2001. The above linked article shows that Congress did not act on it until Sep 14 2001.
I am doing another search again today, since I accidentally found out where the CIA funding is listed in the budget right before I had to sign off yesterday. One of those "If I told you...I'd have to kill you" things, LOL!
To: devolve; piasa
Piasa, thanks for your note about Clarke donating to DEMOCRATS. Some GOP, huh ? Sheesh ! What a LIAR.In 2000 I went in to vote for GW and requested A REPUBLICAN BALLOT
Not sure where Clarke did that, but here in Texas, when I vote in the Primary elections you do have to declare either GOP or 'RAT party. And I voted in the GOP, of course ...
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posted on
03/26/2004 7:48:10 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
To: Howlin
Thanks for the ping.
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posted on
03/26/2004 8:06:44 AM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: brothers4thID
There is a potentially dangerous scenario here. Goss goes ahead and investigates, all in secrecy because of the classified nature of the material. Clarke then comes out in public and admits he lied under oath to Goss's committee to protect President Bush. His conscience has got the best of him and now he has to come clean and tell the truth about the failures of the Bush administration. If Goss proceeds with a referral to the DOJ and the DOJ investigates further and then indicts Clarke, Clarke then becomes a martyr. Bush loses the election, Kerry pardons Clarke and make him the head of Homeland Security.
The Republicans must realize that Clarke didn't get to his high postion in government because he was effective in fighting terrorism, but because he was effective in playing office politics in the most political city in the world.
To: Pukin Dog; mystery-ak; brothers4thID; vpintheak; jackbill; pushforbush; NutCrackerBoy; ...
Related Link :
Shays: Clarke Statements Revisionist
Stamford, CT -- Congressman Christopher Shays (R-CT), chair of the Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations, expressed concern today about recent claims by former Clinton and Bush Administration official Richard Clarke that the Bush Administration failed to respond to the terrorist threat prior to September 11.
Noting Clarke told the subcommittee in June, 2000 that there was: no need for an assessment of the terrorist threat, Shays stated, Mr. Clarke is engaging in revisionist history, apparently for personal partisan reasons. The fact is, when he had the authority and responsibility to craft U.S. counterterrorism policies, he consistently failed to articulate a cogent strategy or plan to Congress.
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posted on
03/26/2004 10:59:18 AM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
To: ladyinred
Porter Goss is not an especially partisan member of Congress. If he is ticked off, Clarke is going to deeply regret it.
I am hopeful that Goss has had enough of this liar and will play tough -- not for politics sake but for national security.
The media won't care if Clarke is under subpoena or is being investigated, or is indicted for perjury or anything else. His usefulness to them is already over. They just won't report anything more about him -- and thus protect their lies and bias.
Clarke should have learned that liberals USE people. When you hang around with liberals, you get in trouble.
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posted on
03/26/2004 11:31:03 AM PST
by
mwl1
To: Utah Girl
I've been wondering too, why did Clarke think he could get away with such contradictory tales?
All I can think is he was counting on the mainstream media and the Dems to spin and cover for him as much as possible, and he hasn't been too disappointed thus far.
Given the seriousness of the conflicts, however, I don't know if he can avoid perjury problems long-term. The media will probably still spin that as the mean old Republicans "smearing" Clarke...
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