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To: kanawa
"After seeing it reposted by you on every thread having to do with Canada-U.S. relations I think I have a pretty good idea of what your saying."

Exagerating a little are you? :-) When was the last Canada thread I posted on? And no, I don't think you understand what I am saying at all. I will try again. This is an American site. It doesn't matter whether you think that is fair or not. That is the truth. This site is about furthering conservatism in America . That is the purpose of this site. When foreigners come onto this site, I believe that they should act with utmost respect and courtesy because they are not one of us -- because they are foreigners -- because this is NOT their site. When I see Canadians coming here to the American site with no other discernable purpose than to defend Canada and argue with Americans -- I am offended.

"I just don't understand why your saying it."

Why don't you consider taking me at my word? That I find posts like your first one to me on this thread and albertabounds posts on this thread offensive. That is why I say what I do. I say it because I really do see it as rude and disrespectful for foreigners to come onto this American site and tell us off.

"We are not trolls come here to insult the United States. We come because we find kindred spirits here, we learn, we share, we leave and go about the business of improving our nation."

There are Canadians I see on this site who do what you are saying here. They do not argue with Americans on their site. They come to learn and to further conservatism here. I appreciate their participation. Your post to me nor albertabounds posts are not about learning, sharing and leaving. They are about telling us what to think and what to feel and why we should not think and feel the way that we do about Canada. I find those posts offensive.

"If we see over-the-top Canada bashing can you fault us for standing up for the truth and our country? Would you do any less if the roles were reversed?"

No I would not. And that is another reason that I question whether you have actually read my posts or understand what I am saying. I would never go onto a Canadian site and tell off Canadians or argue with them or tell them what to think. I have too much respect for that. And I find that foreigners who come here to this American site telling us off to be incredibly disrespectful.

"I've looked over albertabound's post on this thread and if you find them 'particularly rude' then your skin must be pretty thin."

Don't you think that that is a funny thing for you to say -- even possibly hypocritical -- since it is the clearly "thin skin" of Canadians that has you so up in arms in the first place? Isn't it a fact that it is your "think skin" that causes you to come here and argue with Americans? But we disagree. I think that albertabound was particularly rude to Americans on this thread. And I think that you were particularly rude to me. You didn't answer the specifics of my question: "Why do you and other Canadians think you have the right to come onto this American site and tell us off?"

"If that privlege is conditional upon not disagreeing with any statement made by an American and not freely expressing my thoughts and perceptions in a civil manner then I do not want to be here."

Saying to me "STFU" is not anywhere near civil. It was particlarly rude. So I cannot take your above statement seriously since you obviously are not civil in your posts. It is my hope that there will be "conditions" on foreigners posting here. I would very much like to see that. Too bad that foreigners can't be respectful on their own, without having to be "told" to be respectful of the fact that this is an American site.

"But if you or any other poster wants to make insulting sweeping generalizations against Canada or Canadians then as long as I have the privlege of posting here, I will confront you."

That is your choice, as long as you have the privelege of posting, as you say. However, as long as I see Canadians and other foreigners disrespecting this site -- I will be confronting you. I believe we have every right to bash Canada (or France or Syria or anyone) all we want to. That is the privelege of Americans on American sites. If you want to bash Americans -- there are plenty of Canadian sites that do nothing but bash American and Americans for you to go to.

101 posted on 03/15/2004 1:08:55 PM PST by Sunsong (John Kerry, who rose without a trace, with no accomplishments but his own advancement)
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To: Sunsong
Albertabound's posts

Post #1 The article

Post#3 "Are you suggesting Canada has done nothing?"

Post #25 "Canadian Conservatives are well aware of the damage Chretien and his liberal stooges have caused and we are working hard to oust them and then will try to rebuild the fences. Many small western Canadian businesses are seeing their American marketplace dry up in the wake of this debacle.

I am pleased that the poll shows the majority of Canadians look favorably on our friendship and that is a big positive. The truth of the matter is that other than Quebec ( which as little in common with the rest of Canada, let alone America)Canadians and Americans are very much alike. Chretien's Anti-American sentiment was a concession to quell Quebec separatiste's. This in turn was a betrayal and tainted the attitude of America toward all Canadians. A sad but I believe repairable situation. We are joined at the hip and further deterioration only serves the terrorists."

Post #36 (In response to Laotzu comment (insult)"What's to know? What's to respect? Nothing.")

"I guess you fall into that category that prefers to know nothing about it's northern neighbour. Perhaps we could dig up the bodies of the thousands of Canadians that died fighting for freedom in two world wars,Korea, with U.S forces in Viet Nam, Bosnia and Afghanistan and ask them why they contributed nothing to democracy."

Post #48 (in response to Laotzu's "Don't guess; read. Or, get someone that can read to do it for you, Eh!!.
I have provided the entire national history of Canada on this very thread.")

"Insult, the last resort of a fool."

Post#56 "Quid, this post does not support your theory. We did not turn our backs, preferring, rightly or wrongly to rely on the U.N as did many other nations. Surely our presence in Afghanistan should count for something. The Spanish election is just one example of how contentious support for the war on terrorism really is. Hell America itself is severely divided as is Canada. Chretien, a stupid politician, a stupid bureaucrat and a few lefty journalists should not and does not define our relationship. You know this so get over it."

Post#58 (After more flaming and baiting by Laotzu 'What reaction, to the insults from Canadian fools, did you expect?')

"Common sense posting would be nice. Anti-Canadian rants are a dime a dozen."

These are the posts you found "particularly offensive"

"Why don't you consider taking me at my word?"

I do take you at your word and I continue to assert that you are thin-skinned, unable to distinguish between debate and arguement, prone to knee-jerk responses based on your hatred of Canada transferring to anyone Canadian however good spirited, conservative and pro-American they are.

"There are Canadians I see on this site who do what you are saying here."

Canadians such as this?

" You didn't answer the specifics of my question: "Why do you and other Canadians think you have the right to come onto this American site and tell us off?"

As I stated in my previous post, " Why do you suppose that I or any other Canadian here think we have "the right" to come here? My presence here is "a privilege" granted by the owner of this site."

"Saying to me "STFU" is not anywhere near civil. It was particlarly rude."

In the near 2 and 1/2 years that I have been posting here I've lost my cool twice, once on this thread and once here. It takes a bit to get me going.

I find your continual nannyism about the correct behavior for Canadians here 'particularly offensive'. I am a guest of Jim Robinson, the man who gave me a flag that I can fly proudly on my homepage, not of you. If you find a post offensive hit the abuse button and let the mods decide.

"I believe we have every right to bash Canada (or France or Syria or anyone) all we want to"

You may find that is not true. Around a year ago when Canada had just lost warriors in Afghanistan someone posted a particularly disparaging comment about the Canadian Armed Forces. I hit the abuse button and let the mods know how I felt. I left the call in their hands and no matter what their decision I thanked them for letting me get it off my shoulders. The offending post was pulled.

Sunsong, you know that when posters from Canada come here for express purpose of attacking the U.S. I am among the first to let loose on them. But when good, conservative and America friendly posters like albertabound are attacked it is a call to arms as well. I am not proud of being rude to you but rudeness tends to beget rudeness. God bless you and may we meet again on better terms.

125 posted on 03/16/2004 7:51:33 AM PST by kanawa (Nine times out of ten....trepidation leads to jubilation.)
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To: Sunsong; Jim Robinson
This Forum is open to Americans for discussion about furthering conservatism in America.

I thought this was Jim Robinsons site? If he says they are welcome, what is it to you?

You are the only one being rude, and offensive here.If it was my site, and it is not, I would tell you to take your personal vindetta against Canadian freepers out of here.

And for your information Canada is part of north America.
134 posted on 03/16/2004 11:56:43 PM PST by Delphinium
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