[empirekin768]

At any waypoint along the path of the Grand Narrative over the course of 2500 years, you find our most important thinkers bemoaning the death of virtue, the fall of the old pure ideals, and the imminent collapse of Western Civ. It still hasn't happened you will note.

[raloxk]

"At any waypoint along the path of the Grand Narrative over the course of 2500 years, you find our most important thinkers bemoaning the death of virtue, the fall of the old pure ideals, and the imminent collapse of Western Civ. It still hasn't happened you will note."

That is because in the past the nations of the west had birth rates above replacement. At least during communism, while it did challenge the west, there were not millions of communists immigrating to the west to undermine it from within.