[bc2]

This is an awesome article. Kind of cool since I went to NYC this weekend and went to CBGB's where it all happened, on Bowery where it's been renamed to "Joey Ramone Place".

The whole idea of punk is to think for yourself, to question authority, and to be different than the mindless masses around you. Now, these MTV "punks" just parrot the anti-capitalist bilge spouted by Eddie Vedder, and bands like Anti Flag and Green Day. How punk rock is it to blindly hate "THE MAN" and not actually inform yourself?

I'm 24, I have tattoos, I play guitar and bass in a band, we get drunk, cause trouble, go shooting, etc. I'm a Libertarian and I'm a punk. And I've had it out with the "I'm-more-punk-than-you" idiots down at the record shop who are Green Party activists and pass out Socialist propaganda.

How punk is it to be stupid and uninformed? How punk is it to enable people who want to keep you and others down? How punk is it to enable people and political parties who want to take away the power for people to make money, and live free? These people are idiots. I've had arguments where I gave these faux punks a verbal and intellectual beat down, kicked ass on their lies and crushed their snotty attitudes.

True punks will always think for themselves, strive to educate themselves, question authority, and NOT conform to the ideas of idiots no matter what kind of uniform they wear, be it a suit or a mohawk.

There is a big list of FR rockers and former punks. I think I've pinged a few of them. If some aren't right, sorry. If you know who the old FR punks and rockers are, ping them to this article! Special shout to "kdmhcdcfld" because Husker Du rocks!

Is there a punk ping list? If not does anyone want to be on it, if I start one?

[labowski]

Husker Du bump, add me to your list if you start one.

[LibertyGrrrl]

I think you should start one and add me to your PUNK ping list...

[marktuoni]

Got any extra room there on your ping list?

[itsamelman]

"Is there a punk ping list? If not does anyone want to be on it, if I start one?"

Count me in.

[Sam's Army]

I'm there--put me on your list, too!

[Redcoat LI]

Definately.

I've got Gang of Four playing in the background.

Red Roses For Me is the best Pogues album.

"The boys' and me are drunk and looking for you,

We'll eat your friggin' entrails and we won't give a Damn"

[Redcoat LI]

Hey, add Freeper "mylife" to your list,we crossed path on the death of the dead Milkmens' bassist thread last night.

[StoneColdGOP]

Is there a punk ping list? If not does anyone want to be on it, if I start one?

I think you should start one.

Further, I think you should add me to it.

[weegee]

Add me to a punk ping list if you start one. I post some of these related (apolitial) articles to the music section of chat (I get emailed headlines and will post the ocassional article).

Socialists have tried to co-opt the new youth music (new as in post-Woodstock). They co-opted rock and roll in the 1960s. There was no political activism in rock in the 1950s (in folk singer music, definitely).

Socialists would even co-opt outdoor concerts in the 1960s. I've read several accounts of bands that would suddenly find their stage overtaken by the lefty with a bullhorn and an agenda. Johnny Legend and other hippies of the day that would watch from the crowd have also admitted that kids went to the park to hear a band and to meet chicks. Politics was not on their mind; they weren't going to the rally out of any sort of activism.

Abbie Hoffman and other yippies blackmailed the Woodstock promoters to the tune of a $10,000 payoff and a free booth just so they would not "disrupt" the festival. Someone still burned down the food vendors' booth. The hippies of old try to forget the fires at the original Woodstock.

The most punk rock moment of Woodstock came when Pete Townsend whacked Abbie Hoffman with his guitar to knock him off the stage when Abbie tried to take the mike during the Who's set. I wish I could see film/video of that.

[ABE]

A Bob Mould/Husker Du bump here!!!

Add me to the list.

[Keltik]

Add me to the ping list

[Chad Fairbanks]

If you start one, add me. I'm more punk than you hee hee ;0)

[TheWriterInTexas]

Put me on that punk list, please!

"No Mom, the nose ring isn't real...I promise!"

[GodBlessRonaldReagan]

True punks will always think for themselves, strive to educate themselves, question authority, and NOT conform to the ideas of idiots no matter what kind of uniform they wear, be it a suit or a mohawk.

Too true - most of the punks I know are as lockstep and doctrinaire in their thinking as the people they decry, maybe more so.

Husker Du rocks!

Yes they do. But I still can't get over the drummer in my first band leaving to go live with Bob Mould! Bob's cool though - loves to talk wrestling!

Anybody starting a rocker/punk ping list, please include this old fart.

[sauropod]

Count me in.

[BobS]

I prefer the Anti-Nowhere League. They were the last group to have a large outdoor concert in Belgrade, Yugoslavia before that country blew up. Their bus got burned during their riot of 100,000 drunks.

[lavrenti]

There needs to be a punk ping list. One would be amazed at the musicial tastes and fashion leanings of certain Freepers.

Never can understand why we can't get it together and pull together a conservative/libertarian webzine to return to punk to its true individualistic, rebellious roots.

[BlindedByTruth]

it's about time someone in the punk community spoke up and spoke up about the so-called punks of today, I'm a former gothic and a former punk, I don't look like a punk anymore, but I still wave the flag proudly and am sick of the whiney wannabes out there, God bless dude, take care

[counterpunch]

Punk has always been about personal freedoms, individualism, and anti-authoritarian.
Since when did this equal left-wing thought policing, colectivism, and Big Government?

These trendies out there pretending to be punk today just don't get it.