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To: doug from upland; *CCRM
Go figure. Doug From Upland learns the hard way. Posted to *CCRM
2 posted on
03/07/2004 3:06:40 PM PST by
Copernicus
(A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
To: doug from upland
The Washington bureau of The New York Times has been flooded with
complaints today about an article purportedly written by two of our reporters.
I'm hoping -- in the interest of fair play -- that you will post this
explanation on your site, which is where the erroneous information originated.
The article being cited appeared in an Australian newspaper, The Age.
Although it carried the bylines of our reporters, Richard Stevenson and
James Rutenberg, in fact much of the material in the article was from The
Washington Post. The Post material included the passage about the
group Sept. 11 Families for Peaceful Tomorrows. (Originals of the Post
article and The Age articles can be found on their Web sites, if you would
like to doublecheck).
Combining materials from different news services is, of course, common
practice in this country and overseas. The problem, when it is done
sloppily, is that people are blamed -- or credited -- with work they did
not do. I will take up my complaints in that arena with the editors of The Age.
I'm hopeful that you will post this as swiftly, and distribute it as
widely, as the initial error was circulated.
Thank you for your consideration.
Susan Jo Keller
4 posted on
03/07/2004 3:08:29 PM PST by
RISU
To: doug from upland; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; ...
Short list for play.
6 posted on
03/07/2004 3:18:01 PM PST by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: Hon; dead
Ping.
9 posted on
03/07/2004 3:23:44 PM PST by
doug from upland
(Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
To: doug from upland
Doug, you're a standup guy, and I would join you in your apology to Mr.Stevenson.
This is going to be a long campaign, and we need to keep our emotions in check, hard as that is to do.
It is frustrating though, when we've known the truth of this organization for days, and then have to watch, as I did on Fox this afternoon, a woman named Kristin ----- trash Bush for using the ads.
To: doug from upland
classy move doug
12 posted on
03/07/2004 3:27:56 PM PST by
breakem
To: doug from upland
Very nicely done. You are an honorable man. 'Pod
14 posted on
03/07/2004 3:30:28 PM PST by
sauropod
(I intend to have Red Kerry choke on his past.)
To: doug from upland
You are giving great advice. Thoughtful and researched criticism, accompanied by name and contact information, are credible. Harsh and insulting criticism damages one's credibility, and credibility is an extremely valuable commodity, hard to come by, but easy to lose.
15 posted on
03/07/2004 3:31:01 PM PST by
Cboldt
To: doug from upland
Doug, you are a class act. If Martha Stewart had your brains and integrity, she would not be picking out striped pajamas even as we speak. It's always wise, when one screws up, to apologize as soon as the mistake is known.
I also sent a note to Stevenson, seconding your suggestion/request that he "follow the money" as Deep Throat told Woodward and Bernstein in that D.C. parking garage. I hope that Stevenson does that.
Because of the importance of this issue, I will add a reference to it to my column for this week, that will go out in a few hours.
Keep up the good work.
Congressman Billybob
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16 posted on
03/07/2004 3:32:24 PM PST by
Congressman Billybob
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To: doug from upland
Good job.
As another poster said...Its gonna be a long election.
We need to pick our battles carefully. And gain any allies, no matter where they may come from. Truth and time are on our side.
19 posted on
03/07/2004 3:37:26 PM PST by
Khurkris
(Ranger On...)
To: doug from upland
I would hate to think that Freepers are calling the people and leaving abusive messages. I mean, tell them the facts, but lets not be @ssholes, let the looney, rabid left do that.
Good job Doug!
21 posted on
03/07/2004 3:42:15 PM PST by
Paradox
(Cogito ergo Dumb.)
To: doug from upland
We take criticism very seriously. When we mess up, we try to acknowledge it and correct it. But calling and swearing at me, making ugly personal statements and jumping to conclusions on the basis of sketchy information -- which in this case turned out to be dead wrong -- is no way to engage me or my newspaper in a dialog. And I would point out that not one caller other than Doug had the guts to provide a name or a phone number." You are correct Doug .. no one deserves to be treated like that.
23 posted on
03/07/2004 3:56:04 PM PST by
Mo1
(Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
To: prairiebreeze; onyx; BigSkyFreeper; Howlin
Ping to pass the word .. Attack on facts but let's not get in the sewer with the Rats
24 posted on
03/07/2004 4:00:12 PM PST by
Mo1
(Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
To: doug from upland
Thanks for the posy
"Don't make them your enemy. Most of them are just trying to earn a living."
And so is time share selling, hack lawyers and certain wall street traders and insiders. Call them what they are! Any amount of vulgarity can't equal what they do to us on a daily basis. But, that's just my opinon ;)
25 posted on
03/07/2004 4:00:34 PM PST by
moonman
To: doug from upland
Doug, thank you for the post and the professional approach you took. I disagree with the freepers who resort to name calling and cheap tricks. They reflect poorly on the rest of us. Thank you for making a difference with honesty and solid facts. We need an army of people like you.
To: doug from upland
Well .. FReepers are not the ones who do that kind of stuff .. phoning people and calling them names. There are some people who come here and then take advantage. I've seen it done hundreds of times. The fact these people would not identify themselves makes me even more convinced I'm right about it.
36 posted on
03/07/2004 5:31:38 PM PST by
CyberAnt
(The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
To: Timeout
38 posted on
03/07/2004 5:55:05 PM PST by
doug from upland
(Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
To: All
Now here is a great sign ---
![](http://wwwi.reuters.com/images/2004-03-05T041856Z_01_GALAXY-DC-MDF488073_RTRIDSP_2_POLITICS-CAMPAIGN-BUSH-DC.jpg)
41 posted on
03/07/2004 6:06:19 PM PST by
doug from upland
(Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
To: doug from upland
First, I agree that haranguing reporters is a loser. Totally counterproductive.
Second, it still looks like Stevenson was a willing, panting, tail-wagging lapdog when the DNC fed up these "outraged" 9/11 family members. He couldn't see that this was a DNC-orchestrated quick-response effort, primed and ready to spring at the first Bush TV ad? C'mon.... Nothing could have been more obvious.
A good reporter would have been on this like stink on poop trying to find out how the Democrats dug up these people, how much they were paid and/or promised, what their connection was to the Democrat party, and how they were so quickly lined up for TV, radio, and newspaper interviews all over the nation. A good reporter would have smelled a rat a mile away.
This was a masterpiece of political gamesmanship by the Democrats, no question, but it only worked because of the willing complicity of the liberal newrooms. In none of the stories and in none of the TV interviews was it asked of these "outraged" family members, "Did you have any contact with the Kerry campaign or with the Democrat party or its allies prior to coming forward with these criticisms?"
To: All
It has now been 11 hours since the original post. Has the NY TIMES written about the Heinz funding yet? I haven't see it on their website. I guess we need a betting pool.
55 posted on
03/07/2004 8:46:52 PM PST by
doug from upland
(Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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