[HELLRAISER II]

It's not alway's about who's been hurt recently, sometimes it's about the possibility that the next President & his cabinet/Law Enforcement may hurt us later. I don't think that the people posting on this particular thread are against giving our Govt. the tools to use against terrorism as much as we don't want to give our Govt. the tools to harass us with no good reason.

[KC_for_Freedom]

Note, I covered that by saying we don't want to turn this power over to another administration, particularly one run by Kerry, but it is within our power to maintain control during this tough time. The war on terror is not over, in fact it is just starting.

The time will come when these regs will need sunsetting and we need then to stand together and demand that we go back to "probable cause action". However I read that even under the patriot act probable cause is being sought, its just with a judge working under the act, the probable cause is the possibility that the person is working with terrorists.

[Dan from Michigan]

next President & his cabinet/Law Enforcement may hurt us later.

Like this maybe.

President John Kerry
AG - Chuck Schumer
Supreme Court Chief Justice Stephen Reinhardt.