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No - again, it is not the movie that enraged me. It is the attacks on the movie that enrage me, because they are so patently false. If I had seen the movie without having read Maureen Dowd's column (who isn't Jewish, btw, and I've attacked her just as much as any Jew), or Andy Rooney's column (who isn't Jewish either), or Charles Krauthammer's (who -is- Jewish, but on the other hand, he -isn't- a secularist Leftist), or Steve Malzberg (also Jewish, also -not- a secularist Leftist) - well, then, who could I be mad at?

Seriously. Don't pretend you don't know what I'm mad about. It has nothing to do with the movie itself, or any attempt on it's part to depict Jews in an unfavorable light. Quite the opposite. My anger is because it -didn't- depict Jews in a horrific light, after I've seen Gibson and Christians who defended the movie assaulted for over a year with claims that it -did-.

It's obvious that it's the reviews that have angered me, af_vet_1981, not the movie itself. But you can't stop blaming it on the movie, can you? It -has- to be Gibson's fault, because you simply refuse to admit any personal responsibility, or concede that Krauthammer has any responsibility for his diatribes and outright misrepresentations. Nope. Must be all Mel's fault. Must be the movie's fault. Can't be the reviewer's fault. Cause Jews -can't- be anti-Christian, only Christians can be anti-Semites.

THAT is the biggest lie in our conversation, af_vet. Your claim that I lied is because I repeated what you said in a more "vulgar" way (gee - "hell hole" is an extreme vulgarity now apparently). I didn't change the meaning of what you said, however. My "lie" was a paraphrase. The same can't be said of your lie, that it is the movie that has enraged me. That's not a paraphrase, that's an active distortion.

You keep trying to misrepresent my anger as being a result of the -movie-, when anyone who can read can see that my anger is at Dowd, at Rooney, at Krauthammer, at Malzberg, and at you - for precisely the kind of demonization of Christians that Krauthammer falsely claims Gibson did to Jews.

So, in your book, it's perfectly okay for Krauthammer to falsely demonize Christians, but not okay for me to express anger at Jews for that demonization. No, the blame goes to Gibson, and the movie.

Which just shows that you simply have no idea when to quit, and you are part of the problem.

Qwinn

It's obvious that it's the reviews that have angered me, af_vet_1981, not the movie itself. But you can't stop blaming it on the movie, can you? It -has- to be Gibson's fault,

No. I think it is your fault. You saw the movie. You acted out your hatred and anger online for all to read. You just couldn't help yourself. The movie triggered that in you Qwinn.

THAT is the biggest lie in our conversation, af_vet. Your claim that I lied is because I repeated what you said in a more "vulgar" way (gee - "hell hole" is an extreme vulgarity now apparently). I didn't change the meaning of what you said, however. My "lie" was a paraphrase. The same can't be said of your lie, that it is the movie that has enraged me. That's not a paraphrase, that's an active distortion.

No Qwinn. You lied. Your lie was both of semantics and substance. You cannot use FR as a shield for your own comments. You are responsible for them. You cannot reword my comments. They stand as I wrote them. You were attempting to do that, possibly after your reread your own rhetoric. You are simply inflamed by this movie and the criticism of it.

You were the target audience some hoped to reach with this movie for evangelism.