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Sept. 11 Families Disgusted by Bush Campaign Ads
Yahoo (Reuters) ^ | 3/4/04 | Mark Egan

Posted on 03/04/2004 12:21:22 PM PST by The_Victor

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Families who lost relatives in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks voiced outrage on Thursday at President Bush (news - web sites)'s first ads of his re-election campaign that use images of the devastated World Trade Center to portray him as the right leader for tumultuous times.

"Families are enraged," said Bill Doyle, 57, of New York, who is active in several Sept. 11 family groups. "What I think is distasteful is that the president is trying to use 9/11 as a springboard for his re-election."

"It's entirely wrong. He's had 3,500 deaths on his watch, including Iraq (news - web sites)," said Doyle, whose 25-year-old son Joseph died at the trade center.

Long time Bush adviser Karen Hughes defended the four commercials -- which began running on Thursday in at least 16 important battleground states -- as "tastefully done."

"September 11 is not some distant event in the past," Hughes told ABC's "Good Morning America."

"It's a defining event for our future and important that we learn the lessons of that day. All of us feel deeply that tragedy but it's also important to recognize the impact it had on our national public policy," she said.

Two ads refer to the hijacked airliner attacks as the Bush campaign seeks to present him as a leader who rose to the challenge. One ad shows World Trade Center ruins behind an American flag. Another shows firefighters removing the flag-draped remains of a victim.

Ron Willett of Walnut Shade, Missouri, said he was disgusted when he saw the ads. Willett, who lost his 29-year-old son, John Charles, when planes hit the trade center, said he is now so upset, "I would vote for Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) before I would vote for Bush."

"I think it is an atrocity," his wife, Lucy, added. "He should not be allowed to use those images at all."

STAY AWAY FROM GROUND ZERO

With Republicans holding their political convention in New York in late August, victims said they hope Bush does not make it worse by speaking at the site now known as Ground Zero, which many view as sacred.

"If he does, there will be a protest and it could get ugly," said Doyle.

Several family members said their annoyance at Bush's using the emotional images stems in part from his refusal to testify in open session before the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

"There is really a hypocrisy here. The Bush administration will not cooperate fully with the 9/11 commission and at the same time they are trying to invoke and own 9/11 and use it for his re-election," said Stephen Push from the Washington office of "Families September 11th." His wife died on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon (news - web sites) that day.

The International Association of Fire Fighters, which endorsed Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites), also denounced the campaign spots as "hypocrisy at its worst."

"I'm disappointed but not surprised that the president would try to trade on the heroism of those fire fighters," the union's general president, Harold Schaitberger, said.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he had not yet seen the ads but had no objections.

 

"I haven't a problem in reminding people in the country and the world of the sacrifices that the New York City fire department and police department and civilians made," Bloomberg said.

And not all relatives of victims were upset by the ads.

"I don't have a problem with his pointing to his leadership at that time. He helped us weather it. To me it was a tasteful ad," said Patricia Reilly, who sister Lorraine Lee died in the New York attacks. (additional reporting by Larry Fine)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commission; 911families; ccrm; gwb2004
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To: The_Victor
Perfect example of how the press intends to help elect a Democrat this year.

The democrats couldn't wipe their own arse without the news media on hand to do it for them.

41 posted on 03/04/2004 12:43:14 PM PST by skeeter
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To: The_Victor
Now let's see what we have. A pair of people, out of perhaps 6,000 family members of people who were killed on 9/11 have claimed it is wrong for President Bush to mention that subject. There are many more family members of soldiers who have been killed or injured in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere. If two of those object, should Bush not make any mention of what hs has done as Commander in Chief of the war there and elsewhere?

Heck, let's not just stop there. If two recipients of Social Security think it's wrong for Bush to make any reference to SS, should that be off limits, too? Under the idea that the US Constitution contains a clause that guarantees the "freedom not to be offended," ANY subject that ANY two people object to, should be off limits for President Bush's campaign and its commercials.

Should Bush start appearing in public with a piece of duct tape across his mouth, regardless of where he is, what the audience is, and what subject they want him to talk about?

In short, this is an exceptionally stupid article, that was written by a reporter who is incapable of seeing the forest for the trees, much less the ability of seeing any fact IN CONTEXT. And BTW, the editor on this piece had to be "a maroon" also, not to notice the gaping holes in this story as written.

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42 posted on 03/04/2004 12:43:40 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Dog
While I sympathize with the tragedy the Willets suffered, allowing yourselves to be used as props for the very left-wing idealogues who allowed 9-11 to happen in the first place is without honor.

Your mileage may vary, but statements like "I would vote for Saddam Hussein before I would vote for Bush." and "It's an atrocity!" push any validity right off into the margin.

I've lost friends and family over the years as well, both in and out of wartime. It's the way the world turns.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

43 posted on 03/04/2004 12:43:47 PM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Ichneumon
But hey, it's *perfectly* okay for these handful of people to leverage their 9/11 victimhood into nationally-syndicated political attacks against Bush and for Kerry, right?

James Brady, James Brady, James Brady, James Brady...

44 posted on 03/04/2004 12:44:01 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Libertarian444
I'm glad that the son doesn't have to live with the knowledge that his father is a lying, treasonous piece of Democrat garbage.
45 posted on 03/04/2004 12:44:14 PM PST by an amused spectator (Gotta call 9/11? Who do you want to answer - Officer Bush, or Officer Kerry?)
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To: The_Victor
Reuters.

If Reuters reported that I was a man, I'd have to double check. I hate that propaganda mill.

I guess "some" isn't in their style book.

Contemptible morons.

Dan
46 posted on 03/04/2004 12:45:00 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BikePacker
Somebody needs to talk to the Firefighters and Police who BOOOED The Witch off the stage, right after 9/11

That was then. Now they're supporting Kerry. Those unions will stick together and vote as they are told.

47 posted on 03/04/2004 12:45:00 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: Libertarian444
Mr. Doyle is in the liberal media rolodex. Every time they need a quote attacking Bush, he's there with fresh new material

Exactly what I thought. An earlier story on FR quotes similar persons, who, once googled, show up with constant tirades against the administration, and most of them from behind the banners of various organizations. Typical empty reporting from the media.

48 posted on 03/04/2004 12:45:14 PM PST by atomicpossum (Fun pics in my profile)
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To: freeperfromnj
Unfortunately, this will be the top story on the local NY and NJ newscasts tonight. It will be presented in such a biased way that those who normally wouldn't believe it will be sucked in by the relentless rat talking points.

It has been the lead story on the top-of-the-hour radio news all day. Straight from the DNC fax machine to your radio. They have long ago quit even a pretense of objectivity.

49 posted on 03/04/2004 12:46:08 PM PST by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: The_Victor
"Sept. 11 Families", huh? All of them? Apparently. They couldn't find a single example of someone who belongs to a "Sept. 11 Family" who holds a contrary view. Right? Oh wait, they do find one token counterexample, at the end of the article. But for some reason it's not deemed important to clarify the headline.

Ron Willett of Walnut Shade, Missouri, said he was disgusted when he saw the ads.

How are these people seeing the ads? Are they even on TV yet? Is this a case where the reporter drives up to their house, "can I show you Bush's latest ad?", and then puts a mike in their face to get a reaction? I just have a hard time believing this is some kind of spontaneous reaction. The ads were just announced!

Willett, who lost his 29-year-old son, John Charles, when planes hit the trade center, said he is now so upset, "I would vote for Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) before I would vote for Bush."

Well, now we know how much weight to attach to his opinion.

Two can play this game: Let's take this quote from Mr. Willett and show it to a bunch of Iraqians with family members killed by Hussein (not killed "on his watch" but killed by him), and see how *they* react.

"I think it is an atrocity," his wife, Lucy, added. "He should not be allowed to use those images at all."

Now a political paid advertisement is an "atrocity". Good to keep things in perspective isn't it? Meanwhile just a few days ago some 240+ people were blown up while attending a religious celebration. But this TV AD is an "atrocity"!

...victims said they hope Bush does not make it worse by speaking at the site now known as Ground Zero, which many view as sacred.

Ok, this may not be a popular opinion, but 'sacred'? That's going too far. Are we going to build a religion around 9/11 now?

There's no objective reason on earth why the sitting President at the time of a major violent event should be somehow forbidden to speak at the site of those deaths. In fact, all other things being equal, one would expect nothing less. (Where, I wonder, was the "Gettysburg Address" delivered?)

"I don't have a problem with his pointing to his leadership at that time. He helped us weather it. To me it was a tasteful ad," said Patricia Reilly, who sister Lorraine Lee died in the New York attacks.

Ok, so some people have one opinion about the ads, others have the opposite opinion. FASCINATING NEWS FLASH! Film at 11.

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I don't know why but these almost-ridiculously-biased news articles tend to really get to me lately. It's just that they're so transparent and I start to see the same pattern repeated over and over. In fact they're so easy to do, you could write one yourself, on any issue, pushing any opinion you want:

1. Interview a few people (go to a mall, or call them up, whatever) of some Important Subgroup X (X = blacks, 9/11 families, whatever) until you get three opinions on each side of the issue: at least 3 who hold opinion A, and at least 3 who hold opinion B. (Typically you should be able to do this rather easily, interviewing no more than at most 10 people.)

2. If you, personally, agree with A, here's your headline: "[Group X] believes [A]". Of course, if you, personally, agree with B, you can just go ahead and write the opposite headline: "[Group X] believes [B]". It's entirely up to you, because now that you've got the requisite 3 opinions on each side, each headline is equally valid.

3. First sentence: "[Members of Group X] are increasingly voicing their belief that [A or B]." Give a little context setting up the issue, spinning it in your side's favor as much as possible.

4. Supporting quotes: "For example, [person 1] says: 'I believe [A or B]'." Repeat at least twice, or as needed.

5. Finally, the token opposite view goes at the very end: "Not all [members of Group X] believe [A or B], however. Token person says, 'I believe [B or A].'" (Pick the token opposite-view-holder who gave you the weakest quote in step 1.)

This is how every such article goes. It's just so easy to write.

And you can do it from either point of view of any given issue. So what this kind of article really is, is little more than a stealth editorial from its author. For example, this article can be summarized in one sentence, as follows:

"Reuters reporter Mark Egan is disgusted by Bush campaign ads."

and that's news.

50 posted on 03/04/2004 12:46:12 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: The_Victor
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51 posted on 03/04/2004 12:46:39 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: The_Victor
Those who are complaining the loudest are probably card-carrying Democraps. What happened on 9-11 was a major event in Dubya's presidency and for the whole country. I don't have a problem with the ads at all.
52 posted on 03/04/2004 12:47:07 PM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. **-Michelangelo)
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To: The_Victor
If you think this is bad, just wait until the Bush campaign (very justifiably) brings up Kerry's anti-war activities & many, many anti military votes. Or even Sen Kerry's attendance record.

The howling from the fifth column will be epic.

53 posted on 03/04/2004 12:47:22 PM PST by skeeter
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To: an amused spectator
I'll bet that Schaitberger is a fat union slug

Ja, und zey haff gespellt his name wrong too: It's actually Scheissburger.

54 posted on 03/04/2004 12:47:24 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: freeperfromnj
And I'm disgusted by the ungrateful attitudes of these families.

I've not seen the commercials...but radio-show host Michael Medved
said there are TWO SECONDS of 9-11 footage...

Talk about your hypersensitive, find-any-excuse-no-matter-how-insane-to-go-
after-a-Republican nutburgers...
55 posted on 03/04/2004 12:48:08 PM PST by VOA
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To: jwalburg
These worthless donkeyrats are trying to take Political Advantage of hopefully sweeping 911 under the rug. Go W.

911 should be remembered and not just by Americans but by the entire World, especially those in this world who are or will be our enemies.
56 posted on 03/04/2004 12:48:11 PM PST by TomasUSMC
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To: The_Victor
At least they bothered to include one pro-Bush quote. Not exactly balanced, but certainly better than Commie Katie.
57 posted on 03/04/2004 12:48:52 PM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Libertarian444
Mr. Doyle is in the liberal media rolodex. Every time they need a quote attacking Bush, he's there with fresh new material:

I suspect he's in the DNC's rolodex and donors list as well.

58 posted on 03/04/2004 12:50:06 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: The_Victor
Oh, tell these pissant little whiners to clam up. Sheesh. The events of 9/11 were the defining point in Bush's presidency, and few can dispute that he stepped up to the plate afterward.

Fercryinoutloud. Everyone is SOOOOOOOOOOO quick to be offended in this freakin' country any more. Nation of wimps, I swear.

59 posted on 03/04/2004 12:50:25 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: The_Victor
"Ron Willett of Walnut Shade, Missouri, said he was disgusted when he saw the ads. Willett, who lost his 29-year-old son, John Charles, when planes hit the trade center, said he is now so upset, "I would vote for Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) before I would vote for Bush." "I think it is an atrocity," his wife, Lucy, added. "He should not be allowed to use those images at all.""

What ridiculous twaddle...MUD

60 posted on 03/04/2004 12:50:29 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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