The LIVE California Primary Thread for March 2, 2004

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The LIVE California Primary Thread for March 2, 2004

U.S. PRESIDENT- Republican
Bush, George W. (unopposed)

U.S. PRESIDENT- Democrat
Edwards, John
Kerry, John F.
Kucinich, Dennis
Sharpton, Al

U.S. SENATE - Republican
Ball, Danney
Casey, Toni C.
Hatch, Barry L.
Jones, Bill
Kaloogian, Howard
Marin, Rosario
Quraishi, Bill
Stewart, James
Van Zandt, John M.

U.S. SENATE- Democrat
Boxer, Barbara (unopposed)

PROP 55
Kindergarten-University Public Education Facilities Bond Act of 2004.
YES NO

PROP 56
State Budget, Related Taxes, and Reserve. Voting Requirements. Penalties. Initiative Constitutional Amendment and Statute.
YES NO

PROP 57
Economic Recovery Bond Act.
YES NO

PROP 58
California Balanced Budget Act.
YES NO

+ tons of local races and issues

[BookmanTheJanitor]

click on Drago's link on his post above (#467)

[BookmanTheJanitor]

Proposition 55 -- 20,317 of 21,796 precincts reporting (93%)

YES 2,665,145 51%

NO 2,607,210 49%

UGH!!

[GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY]

Alameda up to 98.0% now.
Los Angeles up to 94.0%.
All of Monterey in.

78,000 votes to overcome. Mostly friendly areas left.

[BookmanTheJanitor]

Alameda County came in big time. Pretty fishy how they were at 83% for hours and then a number of votes come in near the end. Also, would it kill the Republican party to run some ads against these bonds, showing how many damn bonds, taxes, lottery payments, etc. these schools already get and how much it is costing each tax payer? Time to go to bed.

[CityOnAHill]

Yup, it's looking like 55 will pass. An update to my trend analysis for those counties which haven't reported final results:

Alameda           1,255
Los Angeles       1,786
San Bernardino  -44,244
San Diego       -20,805
San Joaquin        -164
	
Total           -62,172

Since it's currently ahead by 77,964, it will pass by 15,792 votes.

[BookmanTheJanitor]

Proposition 55 -- 20,608 of 21,796 precincts reporting (95%)

YES 2,700,257 51%

NO 2,636,256 49%

[GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY]

Does that 95% number assume 100% of San Diego? It's probably cooked then. There's no way San Bern. can make up 64,000 votes on its own.

[BookmanTheJanitor]

yes, yes, and yes. Good night.

[CityOnAHill]

Nope. San Diego is only reporting 65% right now. 55 is currently passing by 76,510 votes.

[CityOnAHill]

Ooops. Looks like Bookman has more up to date results than I do. His 95% must include all of San Diego.

[BibChr]

I don't know what you mean about Oller throwing mud. He didn't say anything about Ose's marriage, did he? She did about his.

Pity about Sullivan's prominence, he's such an unseasoned potato. (I.e. starchy and flavorless.) Eric Hogue on KTKZ is a vastly better host, and he was behind Oller.

Dan

[GOPrincess]

Wow, that was an amazing turnaround on Lungren's numbers over the course of the evening.

[Andy_Stephenson]

It is based on SQL. The commands to hack are written in VBA.

[hattend]

I can't access the Kalifornia Sec State website (must have crashed it last night).

What Props passed? I can't believe 55 came from behind. More payola for the NEA.

[GOPrincess]

I just got into the site. 55, 57 and 58 passed. (Re 55, I think we need to get a 2/3 requirement onto the ballot re voters passing bond measures -- it looks like 55 is just squeaking by with a tad over 50% of the vote.)

56 (lowering 2/3 legislature vote re raising taxes to 55%) went down in flames. That was the most important vote of the night, IMHO, and I'm relieved it, at least, lost. Still, as someone who voted "NO" on everything, a disappointment. I hope that Arnold will use this "mandate" wisely in dealing with the Dems in the state legislature and use it to do some good such as pushing through REAL workers' comp reform.

[hattend]

Thanks!

[StoneColdGOP]

My post election analysis (rant):

Somehow, I can't say I'm really surprised. Once in a while, California pleasantly surprises me. Other times, I end up banging my head against the wall. As I refill the ice bag for my cranium, my thoughts...

I am unsure as to how many write-in votes Tom Tancredo got, aside from my own, but if counties do tally uncertified write-ins, its a figure I'd love to see. For an informal, unorganized effort to throw a shot across Jorge Bushamecha's bow, I bet Tom did better than the bots would expect.

Thank God Rosario Marin got squashed. If she was the new face of the GOP then I'm the new face of hip hop music. I expected Casey to do better. I expected Kaloogian to do much better. But ah well, Jones is a good man, and we can just put him on an 8-month sugar rush and get some life out of him, he may just surprise Boxer, and us. I have no qualms about backing him now, but he's starting off deeply in debt.

Last time I checked, the returns for the 3rd C.D. had Lungren a point ahead of Oller. I'm praying for absentees to put Oller through. PLEASE!

Sonny Sardo not only faced a high mountain, but a near vertical cliff in his battle to unseat David Dreier. I'd have at least liked to see him give Dreier a good scare. Oh well, hopefully Sardo will stay an active player.

I WISH that Bob Dornan had chosen to run against Boxer instead of Dana Rohrabacher. You could sell that one on pay-per-view and pay off half of Bush's deficit with the revenue. Instead, B-1 took one one of his own and got 17%. The establishment has a way of closing ranks when threatened by a straight-shooter, and for someone who likes both candidates, it was a toughie.

Michael Jackson (I'm not kidding) gets defeated by Cesar Castellanos for the GOP nod in the 27th Senate District. Evidently name recognition when tied to a pedophile is NOT good. Go Cesar!

John Campbell had just about everything going for him in the 35th S.D. race over Ken Maddox and Col. Joe Snyder. He traded his support of the governor's props for the endorsement of the gov. No surprise.

39th S.D., Judge Larry Stirling wins the GOP nomination in his battle to win back this Senate seat he held about a decade ago. It'll be a tough race in the fall, but Larry's up to it.

No-spine Mike Briggs gets defeated in his come-back bid for the 21st (?) Assembly seat. Hopefully the winner won't have any trouble finding the farm bureau.

A heart-breaker in the true GOP vs. no good RINO battle. Dave Wilcox ran a 10-month grassroots campaign in the 44th A.D., and lefty Lynn Gabriel enters the race hours before the filing deadline and throws tons of money into the race. Plus the establishment backs her. Add in plenty of mudslinging and lies about Dave, and it scores as a 53-47 win for Gabriel. Damn.

The triple threat race for the Republican nomination in the 60th A.D. ends up with a surprisingly big win for Bob Huff. Gayle Pacheco banking on succeding her termed-out husband and Bill MacAloney hoped he, as the sole O.C. candidate, would benefit from the two L.A. County candidates splitting the vote reaped nothing. Safe GOP registration means Huff will be the next Assemnblyman.

Recent Democrat Christie Cristich gets whacked in her bid to nab the 70th A.D. Congrats to Republican Chuck DeVore who bested her. Another safe seat for the GOP in fall.

Prop. 55: When I went to bed last night the measure was losing by 1 point. This morning, it's ahead. So I ask, HOW MUCH F'ING MONEY IS ENOUGH???

Prop. 56: While the people are easily duped into voting to throw money at schools (for the children!), they saw this ugly mound of crap a mile away. For once demonstrating some sense, they killed 56 and stuck it to the liberals. Watch for this one to come back in a few years with some more carrots, but no less dishonesty.

Props. 57/58: Well, 58 looked like the more likely to pass, based on it's non-offensive title alone, so I was looking for 57 to be killed and thus kill the whole deal. But no dice. We borrow billions more to cover past debt and wait for things to improve (?). Well Mr. S, you got your wish, now produce.

(BTW, Schwarzenegger's enthusiasm and optimism is great to watch. I love seeing him give speeches because he has so much love for the state and sincerely wants to make things better and is not motivated by any sense of selfishness. But I couldn't help to notice the man standing behind him on the right side of my TV screen last night. Standing there with his feigned smile, and blackened sinister eyes. Yes Virginia, that was Senator Gil Cedillo, whom Mr. S will be working with to pass a law giving illegal aliens drivers licenses in a manner which will not allow the law to be referended. No thanks, Arnold. I'm still not joining you.)

[Joe Hadenuf]

56 (lowering 2/3 legislature vote re raising taxes to 55%) went down in flames. That was the most important vote of the night, IMHO, and I'm relieved it, at least, lost.

By far the most important.....It got smoked.

[djreece]

Whoa there, relax. I don't live in the district, so I'm not saying I thought he was throwing mud. I'm just conveying my impression based on hearing callers into Sacramento area talk shows, news reports on those stations, and comments from FReepers in the district. It was my attempt to analyze Lungren's last-minute surge not a criticism of Oller.

I was really irritated with Sullivan's cheerleading for Lungren. However, where I live, I don't get Eric Hogue's station so I've never had the opportunity to hear him.

[BibChr]

I just don't know where it comes from. I saw Ose's clever commercial on mudslining -- then heard about her hitting on Oller's marriage. But I haven't heard any specific charges of Oller mudslinging.

You can listen to Eric M-F 5-9, on www.ktkz.com.

Cheers!

Dan