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New Voting Systems in CA a Total Shambles
KFI 640am | March 2, 2004

Posted on 03/02/2004 9:30:20 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl

KFI's reporter Eric Leonard was reporting various problems at polling places around CA, this morning. San Diego county, which invested millions in the Diebold touch screen computer system, is having problems with screens freezing up or computers being completely inoperable.

In Westminister and other parts of Orange County, voters are typing in the voting pin numbers and ONLY Democrat ballots are popping up.

Los Angeles County, which could not afford computer touch screen systems at this time (fortunately) is using the Inka system, which marks ballots with an ink mark in a circle. Someone who voted today told me his ink spots were outside the circles and, when shown to poll workers, was told it didn't matter. Does anyone know if these votes will still register?

It really seems that the punch card chad system was fine and good and there was no reason to revamp the system. With a punch card, there is physical evidence of the vote, and the voter can check to see that only the holes are punched out that they want. What was wrong with that?

I'm about to go vote. Please check in with your voting reports.


TOPICS: Announcements; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2004; blackboxvoting; electronicvoting
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Eric Leonard was reporting that the state is considering outlawing the Diebold touch screen system because it can be easily hacked. That's millions of dollars down the drain for San Diego county.
1 posted on 03/02/2004 9:30:20 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl
San Diego county, which invested millions in the Diebold touch screen computer system, is having problems with screens freezing up or computers being completely inoperable.

Must be the new "tallying" program they installed locally.

Becki

2 posted on 03/02/2004 9:35:06 AM PST by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops!)
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To: liberalsaredogs
Good to know the ACLU hasn't stopped this primary election in its tracks. <sarcasm
4 posted on 03/02/2004 9:37:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
That's millions of dollars down the drain for San Diego county.

They don't care, its only taxpayer money.
5 posted on 03/02/2004 9:41:50 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Someone who voted today told me his ink spots were outside the circles...

How did they end up outside the circles?

6 posted on 03/02/2004 9:42:48 AM PST by EllaMinnow (The best days of America lie ahead GWB 2/23/04)
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To: redlipstick
Apparently it's indirectly marked. That is, you don't put a pen to paper and fill in the circles directly. I'll let you know when I get back from my polling station, where only one Republican booth is set up, and 15 Dem booths.
7 posted on 03/02/2004 9:44:04 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl
This is real interesting since WA state is eventually going to graduate to these touch screens.
8 posted on 03/02/2004 9:45:05 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
The Demonrats were the ones pushing for this system, right?

The Demonrats have just disenfranchised the Republican voters. I demand reparations!!!!
9 posted on 03/02/2004 9:45:21 AM PST by Chewbacca ("Turn off your machines! Walk off your jobs! Power to the People!" - The Ice Pirates)
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In Westminister and other parts of Orange County, voters are typing in the voting pin numbers and ONLY Democrat ballots are popping up.

Fraud!

Inquiry!

Recount!

Civil Rights Violations!

10 posted on 03/02/2004 9:46:28 AM PST by atomicpossum (I wish I had time for a nervous breakdown.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Thanks. It sounds like they once again made something more complicated when trying to make it simpler.
11 posted on 03/02/2004 9:47:16 AM PST by EllaMinnow (The best days of America lie ahead GWB 2/23/04)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
We vote in a neighbor's garage, and the booths aren't segretated. The poll worker announces "Need a Republican Ballot", the other poll worker hands them one, and everyone turns around and stares at the Republican that just walked in. Like a suburban version of a leper, I guess.
12 posted on 03/02/2004 9:47:18 AM PST by .38sw
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To: Cinnamon Girl
JFKerry was sure downplaying expectations this morning.
13 posted on 03/02/2004 9:48:19 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Chewbacca
The Demonrats were the ones pushing for this system, right?

Nope. Bill Jones, the Republican candidate for US Senate endorsed by Arnold Schwarzenegger, got the money ($200 million), certified the systems, and then became a consultant for the industry.

14 posted on 03/02/2004 9:51:52 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly stupid.)
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To: Chewbacca
The Demonrats were the ones pushing for this system, right?

Nope. Bill Jones, the Republican candidate endorsed by Arnold Schwarzenegger, got the money ($200 million), certified the systems, and then became a consultant for the industry. Diebold, one of the manufacturers, has been a big supporter the Bush Administration.

The systems are subject to tampering, produce no paper records, and you're getting them anyway.

15 posted on 03/02/2004 9:56:14 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly stupid.)
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The Demonrats were the ones pushing for this system, right?

I think these were part of the voting reform bill the republicans pushed thru congress. The funding pretty much forced the states into one of three electronic systems, all of which have little or no security.

16 posted on 03/02/2004 9:57:20 AM PST by steve50 ("Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." -H. L. Mencken)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
It really seems that the punch card chad system was fine and good and there was no reason to revamp the system. With a punch card, there is physical evidence of the vote, and the voter can check to see that only the holes are punched out that they want. What was wrong with that?

The problem was the the politicos wanted to take more of the tax payers money for this bull sh*t. It's cost us multiple millions for something that was not even needed.

Big government just gets bigger.

17 posted on 03/02/2004 10:00:48 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Carry_Okie
Ok. I guess I was mistaken.

Sounds like someone was getting kick backs though.
18 posted on 03/02/2004 10:03:01 AM PST by Chewbacca ("Turn off your machines! Walk off your jobs! Power to the People!" - The Ice Pirates)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
For what it's worth, it worked just fine for me here. At least the voting process worked. As far as the tallying...we'll see.
19 posted on 03/02/2004 10:07:15 AM PST by RichInOC (...never had problems with the punchcards...maybe Palm Beach should have used O.C.'s system.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
just voted in North San Diego county with the touchscreen. All went well.
20 posted on 03/02/2004 10:09:23 AM PST by conservcalgal ((I've been here since 1967 and I'm not leaving!!!!!!!))
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