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Week of real hatred: film critic suffers backlash to 'Passion' review
New York Daily News ^ | 2/29/04 | Jami Bernard

Posted on 02/29/2004 7:54:25 AM PST by Brian Mosely

In 18 years as a professional movie critic, I've never gotten the response that I had this week to my one-star review of "The Passion of the Christ."

I knew the reaction would be hostile - movie critics routinely get hate mail, even one time for a review of "Bambi."

But, as they would say in an action movie of the kind Mel Gibson formerly made, this time, it's personal.

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To: Stewart_B; Enterprise
No problem, thanks for the feedback.
181 posted on 02/29/2004 10:21:29 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Brian Mosely
The problem I have with Ms Bernard's critique of the Passion of the Christ is this: She obviously went to look for bad things in the film. She had been preconditioned by Foxman and Rabbi Meir to find bad things. She naturally found one hook nosed person (whom I never noticed by-the-way) and took offense at that too.

If one goes to a film as a professional critic, the manner of approaching the film must be neutral, which obviously was not the case here. So, she gives it a 1 star rating and rants (yes, I mean rants) against the film in her review.
Now she is moaning and feeling sorry for herself because some people were offended by her critique. If she really did receive death threats and nasty personal letters, it is unfortunate. Certainly it would be un-Christian to threaten her. However, her preconceived notions about the film and about Christian beliefs lead me to even doubt her honesty now. I really have some doubts about how bad her e-mails actually were. Maybe she tells the truth, but I do not respect her anymore, so I cannot believe all her self pity is justified. If I am wrong, then it's a shame, but her behavior makes me doubt her.
182 posted on 02/29/2004 10:23:09 AM PST by Gumdrop
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To: don-o
Dang. Bob Dylan is all the rage on FR these days.

Yeah, I figured that this film critic's bible probably is Bob Dylan, so I thought I'd read her a verse that she might relate to. :)

183 posted on 02/29/2004 10:23:23 AM PST by Nick Danger (carpe ductum)
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To: equus
Nicely argued. Well thought out. Exceptionally lucid comments. I'm devestated. Your logic overwhelms me.

I bow to your superior arguments. You're right. I'm wrong. Jesus is dung. Mel Gibson is an antisemite. I'm a Nazi. Black is white. Orwell is god. Go figure.

Um.... exactly who do you serve?

184 posted on 02/29/2004 10:24:51 AM PST by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: jwalsh07
It's not propaganda lady, it is my religion. It is what I have been taught, it is what I believe and I will believe as I take my last breath. It is these kinds of statements that engender enmity.

Post of the Year, my brother.

Class of 98 rules!

185 posted on 02/29/2004 10:27:27 AM PST by don-o
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To: Rockpile
Re: post 139. Did you find this critic's review of Silence of the Lambs?

No. It sorta looks like she did review it, but if so, I'm not clever enough to find it.

186 posted on 02/29/2004 10:28:28 AM PST by null and void
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To: Nick Danger
Yeah, I figured that this film critic's bible probably is Bob Dylan,

Nah. She can't handle Bob, who is a Christian man.

187 posted on 02/29/2004 10:29:09 AM PST by don-o
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To: Stewart_B
She's inept and 'slanted'. Here's her comments on Scorsese's violent Christian, Irish bashing bomb.

5. "GANGS OF NEW YORK" Martin Scorsese's ambitious epic features a spectacular set design that makes you feel you have stepped back into Old New York. Daniel Day-Lewis, a guaranteed Oscar nominee, faces off against Leonardo DiCaprio in a territorial struggle that continues in this country to this day.

188 posted on 02/29/2004 10:29:41 AM PST by duckln
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To: equus
Well, being a writer myself, I can suggest to you that what happened is she showed all the responses to her editor, and they thought, hey there's more of a story here than we thought, why don't you write about it. And that editor is right. A voluminous response, much of it hate mail, is interesting from a journalistic point of view--it's a story in itself.

Well of course the editor and writer want to fill space with stuff that sells. That is, after all, the point of the art. But I'll tell you what I think. I think the writer is at best stretching the truth if/when she asserts "much of the voluminous response is hate mail."

I believe she is mischaracterizing the response, in order to justify her original critique. She has not changed her position.

I agree with your point that it's a story in itself. But if her follow-up story is to be taken seriously, as more than "piling on," she needs to serve up more than vague whining.

189 posted on 02/29/2004 10:30:40 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: jwalsh07
Thanks for your post. You took some time to do that, and I found it informative. I have yet to see the move, but I certainly will not make any decisions based on this woman's review. I got to comments about the camera shots of the "hooked noses" and was instantly repulsed. Puhleeze! I don't remember even seeing a hooked nose. Should hooked nose movie actors be banned from films about Christ? Evidently the author had a list before she saw the film: Be sure to count the hooked noses. Cripes.

I had the thought that she must be looking for them. Agendas, anyone?

190 posted on 02/29/2004 10:35:21 AM PST by .38sw
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To: Former Proud Canadian
My only question. Did she see the movie????

Her disgusting & deceitful review, like that of Andy Rooney's, was written without ever seeing the motion picture. Too bad, she missed a wonderful motion picture.

191 posted on 02/29/2004 10:37:34 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Man rises to greatness if greatness is expected of him)
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To: jwalsh07
Re; post 155. Haven't seen the movie yet, but I already like your review more.
192 posted on 02/29/2004 10:45:17 AM PST by budwiesest
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To: Homer1
Libs are mad because Pilate is Klintonian

OMG, really? No wonder the libs are screaming that Pilate "got off easy"...they still can't grasp that some see him as the personification of evil and not the good guy...

193 posted on 02/29/2004 10:50:30 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Nick Danger
I figured that this film critic's bible probably is Bob Dylan

Not Slow Train Coming or Saved, I would guess.

194 posted on 02/29/2004 10:54:47 AM PST by Rocko
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To: Phsstpok
You are free to believe whatever you want. So am I. It doesn't much matter. For someone who claims to have figured it all out you don't seem to have achieved any inner peace.
195 posted on 02/29/2004 11:29:49 AM PST by sakic
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To: GROOVY
Thats hardly comparable to the criticism of the Passion. I have to go now, but I will check back later tou see if you found one.

While Ebert's reviews are easy enough to find I can't find Siskel's. Maybe you can.

196 posted on 02/29/2004 11:32:27 AM PST by sakic
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To: Brian Mosely
Quentin beats influences to a bloody pulp

 

One StarOne Star1.5 Stars


 

 

 
Uma Thurman is a killing machine in 'Kill Bill'
Quartet of Divas: The Deadly Viper Assassination Squad's (l.-r.) Hannah, Fox, Madsen and Liu

KILL BILL: VOLUME 1. With Uma Thurman, Lucy Liu, Vivica Fox A. Fox, Michael Madsen, Daryl Hannah. Written and directed by Quentin Tarantino. Running time: 93 mins. Rated R: Strong bloody violence, language and some sexual content.

You want blood?

You can shower in it in "Kill Bill: Volume 1," a giddy and only occasionally brilliant homage to all the kung fu fighting, B-movies and spaghetti Westerns Quentin Tarantino scarfed down during his movie-centric adolescence.

It's writer-director Tarantino's love of genre flicks and his will to cram in a little of everything that gets you through the rough spots of this uneven revenge fantasy - grandly billed as his "fourth film" after an absence of six years.

But this long-awaited movie has been unwisely chopped into two pieces - the second is due in February - when it really needed to be one long, delirious ride.

Uma Thurman barely has a chance to catch her breath as the protagonist, dubbed the Bride. She's a steely killing machine who was mowed down in late pregnancy along with her entire wedding party by the DiVAS (Deadly Viper Assassination Squad), her former gang.

After this "Once Upon a Time in the West" opening, the Bride managed to hang on in a coma. When she springs back to life some years later, with not quite the potency of Thurman's resurrection in "Pulp Fiction," she's all about revenge, ticking her opponents off a to-do list as she visits the farthest corners of the globe to kill them.

The action is presented in chapter form. One slugfest takes place in a suburban kitchen, with frying pans and kitchen implements as weapons. Another takes place in a snowy Japanese tea garden to the beat of flamenco.

Meanwhile, there's an anime segment providing one character's backstory and a stopover for a deliberately obscure negotiation with Japanese martial arts legend Sonny Chiba, playing a retired samurai.

What's cool is that Thurman speaks Japanese in several scenes, complete with English subtitles, just the way James Bond would in similar circumstances.

The Vipers are played by Lucy Liu, Daryl Hannah, Michael Madsen and Vivica A. Fox. Each goes by a nom de snake (the Bride, for example, is also known as Black Mamba).

Liu is allowed to have more fun than in "Charlie's Angels," while Hannah gets laughs merely from her outfit, one of many visual non sequiturs - a starchy nurse uniform with a red cross over a white eyepatch.

Bill, played by an unseen David Carradine (of that TV chestnut "Kung Fu"), is the Vipers' leader. Presumably he will get his in "Volume 2."

"Pulp Fiction" and "Reservoir Dogs" fans will be delighted with the in-jokes, gore, movie references, and chunks of flesh and brain splattering the walls.

(For the record, I wrote the 1995 book "Quentin Tarantino: A Man and His Movies.")

The humor in "Kill Bill" resides in those references, in the variations of intensity with which the blood spurts, and with the way the fight scenes, choreographed by Woo-ping Yuen and Chiba, both recall and one-up their sources.

At the same time, the movie has no emotion beneath all this mirthless mirth.

There's enough material to fuel an eternity of Trivial Pursuit, but no one to root for, nothing to take home - not even a good debate about Quarter Pounders - nothing really to keep the fires burning until "Volume 2." There's as little feeling as the Bride has in her stubbornly non-wiggling toes when she first awakens.

There's a lot to admire in "Kill Bill," and a lot that should have been lopped off like the arms and legs and scalps that go flying.

What this undoubtedly enthusiastic writer-director needed was someone who would just say no, be it an editor or Miramax mogul Harvey Weinstein.

Originally published on October 10, 2003


197 posted on 02/29/2004 11:35:13 AM PST by kidkosmic1 (www.InterviewwithGod.com)
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To: kidkosmic1
The above is from a Google cache:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:aAgVGvs7FKMJ:www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/moviereviews/story/125431p-112344c.html+Kill+Bill+JAMI+BERNARD&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
198 posted on 02/29/2004 11:36:51 AM PST by kidkosmic1 (www.InterviewwithGod.com)
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To: Brian Mosely
What interests me as a movie critic is the profusion of people who do not understand or care how to evaluate a movie.

They don't see how film images are juxtaposed to create a desired emotion, that what is left out of a screenplay can be as important as what is kept in, and how constantly and subliminally manipulative a medium this is. They cannot see through filmmaking's beautiful deceptions.

Perhaps she is correct. But we can judge the effectiveness of a movie in evoking the desired reactions. Few of the movies the critics rave about touch me at all.

The Passion, however, is the most moving film I have ever seen. It touched me more deeply than any piece of art. Handel's Messiah is a close second.

But more importantly, I think this film changed me. It renewed my dedication and commitment to God and His Son. I think the change will be long-lasting. I pray so.

I'm sorry I don't reach Jami Bernard's expectations in my ability to properly discriminate between films. But then again, that's not why I went to this amazing movie.



199 posted on 02/29/2004 11:42:14 AM PST by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: sakic
You are free to believe whatever you want. So am I. It doesn't much matter. For someone who claims to have figured it all out you don't seem to have achieved any inner peace.

I'm arguing that God has forgiven us our sins and that Mel Gibson has captured that truth in his film. You are apparently arguing against that premise, as well as condemning that film as a "hate" piece. You are futher calling all those who dare to speak up for that film as hate mongers, by supporting someone who does that exact thing as "reasonable." You then accuse me of not achieving "inner peace."

Instant karmas gonna get you, you know.

2 + 2 does NOT equal 666. Sorry to disappoint you. Embrace God's love that binds us, not the hate that divides us.

200 posted on 02/29/2004 11:49:40 AM PST by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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