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To: DoughtyOne
I think it's preposterous to claim that the illegal immigrant quotient doesn't differ.

And I wouldn't claim that; just that both groups make some positive contribution.

Tell me how a person making minimum wages, some of them even being paid under the table, is going to contribute enough to the state to be a positive assett.

I said it would be negative on balance.

The general illegal immigrant doesn't get paid substantial wages, so he isn't paying big dollars in state or federal withholding taxes. Many of them are paid funds under the table at construction sites and by local residents who hire them to do manual labor tasks. This situation is ripe for fraud.

Sounds like you'd be in favor of a guest worker program to fix this problem :)

Do you still think this is a win win?

I never did. To enter Algore mode: "In MY plan, illegal immigration would not be tolerated, while legal immigration would be welcomed, up to a relatively high limit. Anyone trying to come to America ILLegally would be placed in a lockbox and shipped to Guadalajara." Plus a modest guest-worker program.

120 posted on 02/29/2004 11:46:32 AM PST by JohnnyZ (People don't just bump into each other and have sex. This isn't Cinemax! -- Jerry)
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To: JohnnyZ
Listen guy, if you think these programs are an answer to what ails this nation, then please explain the net effect of what free labor under slavery brought us. Do you think that was a net gain over the hundreds of years?

Perhaps you have no exposure to areas where high immigrant populations are represented. The ghetofication of my region is chilling to watch. Legalizing the process would only legitimize the process. It's effect on the ghetofication would be negligable. It's effect on the financial drain would be negligable.
121 posted on 02/29/2004 12:01:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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