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To: samtheman
The opportunity is this: condemn the statement "the Jews killed Jesus". Condemn it because it's stupid.

do you know why you don't hear ME condemning the statement? because I DON"T KNOW ANYONE THAT BELIEVES THAT THE JEWS SHOULD BE BLAMED FOR KILLING JESUS. honestly. i grew up in a largely catholic community attended catholic schools, as do my children today, and NO ONE BELIEVES that. our belief, and that of the Church is that Christ died for all of us. so you are asking me to condemn something that is too ridiculous to even contemplate.

i had this discussion, with respect to anti-semitism and this movie with a good friend and Jewish colleague yesterday. and i think he thinks the same way. one thing you need to understand is that people are coming at this from different directions. i understand that Jews are going to see all of this differently than i, because we all see things through the prism of our own experience. i ask you not to judge me, or other Christians, for not making this statement you seek from us. NOT because we don't believe it, but because in our realm of experience it doesn't seem NECESSARY. do you understand what i am trying to say?

58 posted on 02/27/2004 4:29:17 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
do you know why you don't hear ME condemning the statement? because I DON"T KNOW ANYONE THAT BELIEVES THAT THE JEWS SHOULD BE BLAMED FOR KILLING JESUS. honestly. i grew up in a largely catholic community attended catholic schools, as do my children today, and NO ONE BELIEVES that. our belief, and that of the Church is that Christ died for all of us. so you are asking me to condemn something that is too ridiculous to even contemplate.
Well, then I applaud your group, your friends, your church. But just because you are in good company --- and you are, you definitely are --- doesn't mean the idea isn't out there. It's not the biggest thing going in the Christian world. Support for Israel is much bigger. Much much bigger. And I've pointed that out hundreds of times in discussions in FR. I'm not a newbie here.

But the idea that "the Jews killed Jesus" is alive and well in the USA and Europe and it should be denounced. And now, because of this movie, is the time to denounce it. Loudly. Openly.

66 posted on 02/27/2004 4:35:12 AM PST by samtheman
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To: xsmommy
was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate,

This has been the official Catholic take on the issue since 381.

205 posted on 02/27/2004 5:56:57 AM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Toomey April 27)
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To: xsmommy
I couldn't agree with you more.

I grew up in a strong Catholic faith, and at no time were the Jewish people blamed on the death of Jesus.

I often wonder if that isn't a front just to defend the anti-Christian attacks that are permeating out there?

399 posted on 02/27/2004 5:15:28 PM PST by Northern Yankee ( Freedom needs a soldier...)
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