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Has Andrew Sullivan been “Brocked” a la David Brock?
self | 02-26-04 | WL-Law

Posted on 02/26/2004 3:17:01 PM PST by WL-law

As someone who was once a daily reader of Andrew Sullivan’s blog, and who had enjoyed his appearances on C-Span and elsewhere de-constructing the errors of the left, I like many find his obsession with gay marriage and his new overall tone unreadable and increasingly detestable.

Based on what I understand about gays and their lifestyle generally, marriage has always been the last thing on the gay man’s minds. As Camille Paglia has noted, male gayness can be described as a state of flight away from mothers, from women, from commitment and middle-class “normalcy”. It’s a state of ‘otherness’.

So – are the proponents of gay marriage being honest about their motives?

Well – let’s look at gay marriage cheerleader #1, Andrew Sullivan.

It turns out that while Sullivan was espousing conservative political values during the last couple of years, some gay activists discovered that Andrew had a dark side that would seem to brand him a “moral hypocrite”, in their calculus.

And so they circulated, in gay chats, what they discovered about Andrew.

Here it is: http://milkyloads.tripod.com/

Yes, it’s as bad as it sounds. If you visit the site, keep the kids away. It will open your eyes, though, to the mendacity of Sullivan’s campaign for gay marriage. The link goes to a gay group site where you’ll find where gay politico’s “outed” Sullivan, and they provide a link to what they discovered: Sullivan’s own posted sex ads, where he trolls for men (not “a man”) for anonymous dangerous unprotected HIV+ passing sex. Andrew posted on various cruising sites for rough 'bareback' sex with strangers.

And Andrew even posted pictures of himself – and trust me, it’s him, all right. Sullivan posted nude pictures of himself (face disguised, and one picture that just shows his ass!) and advertises how buff he is (he specifically mentions his 19" neck) and how horny he is to get it on with all "comers" (that's my pun, not his). It clearly is real, and Sullivan apparently immediately pulled the postings once he was caught "with his pants down" (my pun again). I recently saw him on MSNBC recently and observed the big neck he was advertising -- he's been weightlifting and apparently this is a significant plus factor for him in attracting gay trysts.

At any rate, it's clear that Andrew's lifestyle is about sex with strangers, as many as possible, not about "marriage". And, BTW, Sullivan is HIV+, but fails to mention it on one of the ads. And yet -- he's advertising for unprotected (bareback) anal sex.

“Isn't that just special”, as the church lady would say?

So – it appears that Andrew has decided to fend off one accusation of hypocrisy by adopting a hypocritical position that supports the people who outed him. Got it?! It worked on David Brock, and its working with Andrew Sullivan. He’s now back in the good graces of the gay police, -- but Andrew remains as his our own little "Typhoid Mary" spreading HIV (and poisonoud ideas) while he mounts the pulpit preaching to the American public that gays are wholesome and “just want to be loved”, meaning they just want to get married and live normal monogamous lives.

And now he's a different kind of hypocrite -- one that pretends that gays are actually interested in marriage, whereas he knows that gays are gays because they are running away from monogamy and that a fulfilled gay life is one filled with hundreds of partners, not one partner.

And he’s the #1 case-on-point to prove it.


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KEYWORDS: andrewsullivan; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda
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To: the Real fifi
Sullivan writes well, and is a bright fellow, but on all subjects involving homosexuality or homosexuals, he is completely irrational and off the deep end.
21 posted on 02/26/2004 3:41:04 PM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Petronski
I am not busting on you, and I will not visit his site. I just have a question: "Andrew Sullivan" is a common enough name--is everyone certain the writer is the slut and vice versa?

You can clearly see from the pictures that it is him -- the face is obscured, but you can see his beard, and it IS his beard, and the "neck" thing is him, too. And there's enough obvious attempt to 'disguise' himself on the site -- he only identifies himself as "andy" -- that the sex-cruising posting certainly seems to be genuinely Andrew Sullivan, ie, and not a put-up job by someone trying to smear him.

22 posted on 02/26/2004 3:41:30 PM PST by WL-law
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To: Old Sarge
Milkyloads...that's quite a name for a 'gay chat room'.
23 posted on 02/26/2004 3:41:33 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Gay marriage is for suckers...)
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To: WL-law
This all came out a long time ago (over a year), and certainly isn't something one can blackmail him with. In fact, given all this I don't see how anyone could blackmail Sullivan.
24 posted on 02/26/2004 3:41:55 PM PST by buwaya
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To: ErnBatavia
I tried to ignore that....
25 posted on 02/26/2004 3:43:14 PM PST by Old Sarge
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To: Cinnamon Girl
"What the H are you doing studying gay sites?"

Just doing research....like Peter Townsend.

26 posted on 02/26/2004 3:43:18 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
What the H are you doing studying gay sites?

Actually, someone else here on FR 'tipped me off' and gave me the link -- and I won't embarrass him (by revealing his FR name) the way you just tried to embarrass me. :^)

27 posted on 02/26/2004 3:43:39 PM PST by WL-law
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To: WL-law
I stopped reading him regularly a while ago. He is not a conservative. He's a self-centered man who resents that blacks, Hispanics, elderly etc. get more legislative and print attention than he gets as a white male. Andrew loves the victim card just as much as every other Democrat. What else explains his obsession with expanding the definition of an institution he would like consider constraining, as well as his infatuation with Edwards, the victim's advocate.
28 posted on 02/26/2004 3:43:40 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: WL-law
I need to stress here: Sullivan hasn't only moved leftward on homosexual issues. He's also pro-abortion and anti-gun. His whole message seems to be that the Democrat issues should win--except for their opposition to the war, and frankly I'm not sure that he won't backpedal on this issue either--but that they should be nicer to the GOP while winning.

He opposed the partial-birth abortion ban, because it might strengthen his fictitious bogeyman, the "religious right." (Homosexuals feeling good apparently trumps saving babies from getting their brains sucked out). He also sided with Sen. Charles Schumer when Schumer wanted to use 9/11 as an excuse for making a permanent database of gun sales. He flirted with supporting Howard Dean until it became obvious Dean was tanking--this when Bush had not supported the marriage yet. He at one point attacked Newt Gingrich on some national security issue (I forget which one, but I think it was Taiwan), not because of the substance of Newt's generally correct remarks, but because Newt was the "most reviled American politician in recent history." (Note that Newt doesn't have a history of being especially anti-homosexual; Andrew simply doesn't like him because his homo friends tell him not to like him). He rejoiced at the departure of Phil Gramm, not because Gramm was any kind of an extremist--he admitted he wasn't--but because he had a Southern accent and therefore was beyond the pale.

The really ironic thing here is that Sullivan has gloated about the triumph of "gay" culture--even to the point of saying, not without some validity, that it's now the dominant culture--yet now that Bush supports the FMA, he acts as if homos were some beknighted victims. He can't have it both ways: they can't be persecuted dictators.

I think part of his rage is that Bush stole his show: he was planning on back-stabbing Bush in late October, and instead Bush has forced his hand now. No one is running headlines of "Sullivan endorses Kerry" at a crucial time; instead they're saying "Bush endorses gay marriage ban." As usual, Sullivan is angry at being the first one kicked to the curb.

29 posted on 02/26/2004 3:45:34 PM PST by Miles Vorkosigan
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To: WL-law
I'll say the same thing here I said the first time someone brought up AS's increasingly unpleasant web site: I stopped reading him way before this gay marriage thing started up, for one simple reason: He's an elitist pontificator, not a blogger. He refuses to answer email unless you are yourself part of the media establishment or one of the single biggest names in blogging, and he refuses to correct even the most blatant errors on his site unless he's embarrassed into doing so by one of those same "A-List" bloggers. He's the utter antithesis of what blogging is supposed to be about; he even CHARGES for access to his supposed "best" writing.

If I want to read one-way, pompous treatises issued from On High, written by snobs who expect their readers to just shut up and consume, then I can get that in spades from Newsweek or The New York Times or any of a million other newspapers and magazines. I sure as hell don't need more of it from Andrew Sullivan.

30 posted on 02/26/2004 3:47:41 PM PST by Timesink (Smacky is power.)
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To: CatoRenasci
Sullivan is consistent on his conservative positions. He is pro-war on terror and anti big government spending, as am I.

He thinks Bush is the man to keep on terror but thinks people will vote against him because of a prescription drug plan and other compassionate conservative moves he has made.

I disagree with Sullivan there. I think now as I did two years ago that the issue of this campaign will be the war on terror. I have e-mailed Sullivan to express this view that it is unlikely that Islamist Fascist would consider gay marriages a top priority and the battle over that can be fought after the war is won.

I'll cut him some slack on the gay marriage issue. He can rant on that all he wants that is his right. I just hope he doesn't lose sight of the issue and that is the total defeat of Islamist Fascism.

Sullivan is still a good pundit I just wouldn't want him as my pastor.
31 posted on 02/26/2004 3:48:12 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: buwaya
You're assuming that's all there is to blackmail him with. I recall that he was one of the ones attacking Dr. Laura; not because of anti-homosexual remarks (she didn't make any), but because she blasted the APA for pedophile-friendly articles. Draw your own conclusions.
32 posted on 02/26/2004 3:48:19 PM PST by Miles Vorkosigan
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
Given a choice between getting on his knees and receiving the Body of Christ on Sunday, and getting on his knees and receiving the Body of Steve on Saturday, he has chosen option 'b'.

YIKES!!! What a picture!! Profound....sad and profound.

33 posted on 02/26/2004 3:49:35 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Patrick1
He only supports the War on Terror in order to get attention. On everything else he's down-the-line hard left.
34 posted on 02/26/2004 3:50:18 PM PST by Miles Vorkosigan
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To: Miles Vorkosigan
He is not down the line hard left on government spending and taxes. He isn't. He is crazy left on some social issues especially homosexual marriage but on many things that conservatives can support his position is still the same.
35 posted on 02/26/2004 3:54:13 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: Miles Vorkosigan
He's something of a small-government conservative on most things. I think he is more than halfway to being a sort of libertarian.
36 posted on 02/26/2004 3:56:07 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Patrick1
He's to the left of the overwhelming majority of Americans on partial-birth abortion. He supports a database of gun owners.

I don't give a rat's arse, considering these transtressions, that he may oppose a highway bill here or there.

37 posted on 02/26/2004 3:56:58 PM PST by Miles Vorkosigan
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To: buwaya
I'm not a libertarian, but I will say this: no libertarian would ever support gun control. Sullivan does.
38 posted on 02/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Miles Vorkosigan
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To: Miles Vorkosigan
That should read transgressions.
39 posted on 02/26/2004 3:58:40 PM PST by Miles Vorkosigan
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To: WL-law
Why do we care what he does with his private life.

Why do we care what he has to say in public?

40 posted on 02/26/2004 4:00:50 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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