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Fox News reports what Freeper Ambrose Uncovered (Re:NYT fake sources)
Foxnews ^ | 25 Feb 2004 | Fox News

Posted on 02/25/2004 3:41:55 PM PST by Rokke

Tonight on the Grapevine, Foxnews discussed CBS News reporting on the "massive" conservative revolt against Bush, despite their own polling results which showed Bush with overwhelming Republican support. The question was then asked, "Where did CBS get the idea the conservatives were rebelling? The answer...from the New York Times." They then went on to discuss Ambrose's (they didn't credit him unfortunately) discovery that the NYT's used the same source calling him first a Republican and then two weeks later an independent to support their claim that conservatives were ditching Bush.

Nice job Ambrose. You didn't get the credit on Foxnews, but we know where the best investigative reporting comes from.


TOPICS: Announcements; Breaking News
KEYWORDS: ambrose; ccrm; congrats; deceit; fabrication; foxnews; fraud; grapevine; mediabias; medialies; nyt; nytimes
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To: Rokke

George Meagher himself, on the left--naturally.

21 posted on 02/25/2004 3:52:45 PM PST by Hon
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To: Rokke
BUMP!!

I saw Jim Angle mention this, too.

22 posted on 02/25/2004 3:52:56 PM PST by MasonGal
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To: ambrose
Great job.
23 posted on 02/25/2004 3:53:04 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: cinFLA
Bah.
Everyone knows that it's the Democrats who are revolting....:)
24 posted on 02/25/2004 3:53:43 PM PST by Salamander
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To: Rokke; ambrose; PhiKapMom; My2Cents; Howlin; Tamsey; doodlelady; TheSpottedOwl; windchime; ...

WTG Ambrose!


25 posted on 02/25/2004 3:54:16 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: ambrose
Outstanding work!
26 posted on 02/25/2004 3:54:23 PM PST by Joe 6-pack ("We deal in hard calibers and hot lead." - Roland Deschaines)
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To: ambrose; Grampa Dave; Liz; SierraWasp
I love the Internet. They would get away with these lies just a few short years ago.

You and me both. Congratulations on a REAL job of reporting, and outing, the criminal lamestream mediots.

Another Freeper triumph.

27 posted on 02/25/2004 3:56:13 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Petronski
Here's the thread I sent ot Rush, Sean and Fox. Check out mrsmiths #44 and ambroses gem posted by deport in #86.
28 posted on 02/25/2004 3:56:40 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: ambrose
Bravo....job well done...
29 posted on 02/25/2004 3:57:07 PM PST by mystery-ak (*The cause of freedom is in good hands*....you betcha, Mr. President!)
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To: Rokke
Well done!

It's nice to see the good guys score a win in the media from time to time.

Anyone want to bet on when CBS will issue a correction?
30 posted on 02/25/2004 3:57:26 PM PST by Skywarner (Freedom isn't Free. Remember our WWII vets!)
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To: Timesink; *CCRM; governsleastgovernsbest; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; ...
Revived Media Shenanigans ping - Freeper ambrose gives the Times a wedgie

On, Off, or grab it for a Media Shenanigans/Schadenfreude ping:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~anamusedspectator/

31 posted on 02/25/2004 3:58:42 PM PST by an amused spectator (articulating AAS' thoughts on FR since 1997)
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To: Rokke; ambrose
Good for you, ambrose.
32 posted on 02/25/2004 4:01:23 PM PST by truthkeeper
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To: ambrose
Nice!
33 posted on 02/25/2004 4:02:24 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Rokke
Without Free Republic there is NO truth in media!
34 posted on 02/25/2004 4:03:50 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: ambrose
Excellent work, ambrose!

I missed your expose, but it sounds like you found another favorite source, ala Greg Packer and Greg Thielmann? Very very good.
35 posted on 02/25/2004 4:03:59 PM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: keithtoo
Of course, Ambrose did get credit from Andrew Sullivan and James Taranto - Best of the Web.

More good news.

36 posted on 02/25/2004 4:04:40 PM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: keithtoo
Of course, Ambrose did get credit from Andrew Sullivan and James Taranto - Best of the Web.

When did Taranto run it? I've been waiting to see his take on it, but I haven't seen it mentioned by him...

37 posted on 02/25/2004 4:06:46 PM PST by Timesink (Smacky is power.)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; Timesink; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; bamabaseballmom; FoxGirl; Mr. Bob; ...
FoxFan ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.

38 posted on 02/25/2004 4:07:13 PM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F'in Kerry!)
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To: Rokke
They then went on to discuss Ambrose's (they didn't credit him unfortunately)...

It is becoming increasingly irritating that mainstream journalism sources cribbage material from FreeRepublic without attribution. In doing so, they are violating their own ethical standards. They need to be called on this, with formal complaints to their Editors and Ombudsmen.

The Washington Post Standards and Ethics

Author: The Washington Post
Published: February 16, 1999
Last Updated: February 17, 1999
A. Conflict of interest
B. The reporter’s role
C. Errors
D. Attribution of sources
E. Plagiarism and credit…

The Washington Post is pledged to an aggressive, responsible and fair pursuit of the truth without fear of any special interest, and with favor to none….

Washington Post reporters and editors are pledged to approach every assignment with the fairness of open minds and without prior judgment. The search for opposing views must be routine. Comment from persons accused or challenged in stories must be included. The motives of those who press their views upon us must routinely be examined, and it must be recognized that those motives can be noble or ignoble, obvious or ulterior....

D. Attribution of Sources

The Washington Post is pledged to disclose the source of all information when at all possible. When we agree to protect a source’s identity, that identity will not be made known to anyone outside The Post.

Before any information is accepted without full attribution, reporters must make every reasonable effort to get it on the record. If that is not possible, reporters should consider seeking the information elsewhere. If that in turn is not possible, reporters should request an on-the-record reason for concealing the source’s identity and should include the reason in the story.

In any case, some kind of identification is almost always possible – by department or by position, for example – and should be reported.

No pseudonyms are to be used.

E. Plagiarism and Credit

Attribution of material from other newspapers and other media must be total. Plagiarism is one of journalism’s unforgivable sins. It is the policy of this newspaper to give credit to other publications that develop exclusive stories worthy of coverage by The Post.

Washington Post Standards

39 posted on 02/25/2004 4:08:32 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: ambrose
Wait a minute. I did read that thread.

Well, bravo for you!
40 posted on 02/25/2004 4:10:02 PM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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