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New Film May Harm Gibson's Career [H'wood Bigs vow revenge]
NY Times ^ | 2/26/2004 | SHARON WAXMAN

Posted on 02/25/2004 3:29:59 PM PST by SauronOfMordor

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To: atomicpossum
This is the city that will honor Leni Reifenstahl in the Oscar ceremony this year?
 
Leni Riefenstahl, Filmmaker and Nazi Propagandist, Dies at 101
 
Hollywood crucifies Mel Gibson...yet glorifies this woman..
 
The Federal Republic's version has been denazified.
Her greatest success she made with the documentary film »Triumph des Willens« named after the Reich Party Congress 1934 in Nuremberg which got the highest awards: The gold medal in Venice in 1935 and the gold medal at the World Exhibition in Paris in 1937. However, at the end of the war this film destroyed Leni Riefenstahl's career, for now it had no longer been recognized as a piece of art but been condemned as a National Socialist propaganda film. Her world-famous film about the Olympic games made the same experience. That film included two parts, part I »Fest der Völker« and part 2 »Fest der Schönheit« , and did also get the highest awards: the gold medal in Paris in 1937, the first price in Venice as the world's best film in 1938, the Olympic Award by the IOC in 1939, and in 1956 it had been classified as one of the world's best ten films.

161 posted on 02/25/2004 5:34:14 PM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: SauronOfMordor
From the book (and the movie...a line that stuck in my head)

Jesus: No man is greater than his master. If they persecute me, they will persecute you...


162 posted on 02/25/2004 5:36:19 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: rmlew
didn't know anything about him till the other day....
163 posted on 02/25/2004 5:38:43 PM PST by cajun-jack
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To: SauronOfMordor
Is this the same Hollywood that has Scientologists spouting off every chance they get? The same one with all the liberals raving against censorship; where Richard Gere praises the Dalai Lama, everyone is proud of their latest hot 'cult' and the rest wear their atheism like a badge?
It's not about RELIGION- it's about CHRISTIANITY.
God works in mysterious ways- Mel Gibson is the latest.
164 posted on 02/25/2004 5:45:04 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam...it's about Islam.)
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To: nutmeg
love your ping list :) How is this HURTING him? These SLIMERS are just angry to discover masses of christians, jews, YES EVEN MUSLIMS,etc. are going to watch a film about Christ. A film about Christ as opposed to filthy, dirty nasty vulgarity on film.
165 posted on 02/25/2004 5:45:29 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
God willing, Mel will one day be in Lucas's financial bracket.

Well, that might be next Tuesday.

166 posted on 02/25/2004 5:50:45 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: Miss Marple
Excuse me, but I notice you on every thread about this movie making sarcastic comments. Could youplease explain your motivation?

None whatsoever, and my comments are as sarcastic as your screen name. No, they're just sober, in face of the feverish entertainment fanatics treating a silly movie as if it was a Catholic High Mass. Nothing more than that, and no harm intended!

167 posted on 02/25/2004 5:51:11 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Wolverine
Thanks for posting. I'd not heard of this before. If I were of the Jewish faith, I would be calling for heads to roll on this one.

I don't watch the Oscars anyway, I swore off award shows after seeing them become nothing more than platforms for liberals to spew their garbage, ad naseum.

168 posted on 02/25/2004 5:51:34 PM PST by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: SauronOfMordor
SHARON WAXMAN

Hmmmm?

169 posted on 02/25/2004 5:52:53 PM PST by jackbill
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To: SauronOfMordor
Ms. Waxman,

You are an idiot.

After this film, Mel Gibson will become one of the most powerful people in town.

Deal with it.

170 posted on 02/25/2004 5:53:35 PM PST by mrobison (We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of dreams.)
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To: joesbucks
It's one thing to be moved emotionally and from what I've read and heard, this is a very emotional movie. It's another to be "moved". I think most people are being affected emotionally, not in a life shattering "movement". It's one thing to commit to faith, I mean truly commit to faith. It's quite another to have had an emotional experience.

I'm with you, but remember that Noah's Flood started with a few raindrops, and none of them was willing to take the blame.

171 posted on 02/25/2004 5:53:47 PM PST by Theophilus (Save little liberals - Stop Abortion!!!)
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To: SauronOfMordor
So what if the Hollywood big wigs hate him now that this movie is out, they hated him before. His movies were always panned. I hope Mel tells them to stick it!
172 posted on 02/25/2004 5:55:47 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
well then...a BILLION $$$ is virtually guaranteed.
173 posted on 02/25/2004 5:56:18 PM PST by chiller (JUDGES is JOB #1)
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To: Revolting cat!
Nothing more than that, and no harm intended!

I've read many of your posts. Harm is almost always intended. You bait people. The cowards way out, some would say. You think you are outrageous in some pathetic way, but most seem to ignore you, with good reason.

I just wanted to take the time to let you know I'll include you in my prayers tonight.

174 posted on 02/25/2004 5:57:06 PM PST by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: Revolting cat!
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I think that it is more than a silly movie.

Remember, God chooses the foolish things of this world to confound the wise.

175 posted on 02/25/2004 5:58:19 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Nick Danger
If soft core pornographers such as Katzenberg and Geffen actually spent some time reading the Gospels instead of spitting on them, they might even understand what Jesus was saying through Matthew and how it could well apply to Mel Gibson.

"If the house is worthy, let your peace come upon it; if not, let your peace return to you. Whoever will not receive you or listen to your words - go outside that house or town and shake the dust from your feet. Amen, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gommorah on the day of judgement than for that town."

Matthew 10: 13-15.

176 posted on 02/25/2004 6:05:30 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: hoyaloya
Ding Ding Ding!
We have a winner folks.
The article immediately struck me as incredibly stereotyping Hollywood as being controlled by powerfull Jewish moguls with dark intent.
Rather blatant anti-semetism from the NY Times, dont you think?
Frankly, I dont personally know very many people of the Jewish faith.The few I do know are not rich and powerfull, nor do they make a big deal of their "Jewishness" anymore than the Christians I know make a major issue of their Christianity to casual or business contacts.
Why is this NY Times writer proclaiming that Jews in Hollywood are out to punish Christian Mel Gibson for making a film about Jesus Christ?
Somehow, mainly based on lifelong osmosis,I am under the impression that observant Jews and observant Christians have much more in common with each other, than they do with persons perhaps raised in families of either faith, but who do not believe in, nor practice the actual religions of their parents.
I mean I have grandparents who were devout Christians.
That does not automatically make me a Christian, even a backsliding one.
Just because a person was born to a family who described themselves as Jewish, does not mean that person is really Jewish.If they do not believe in, or conduct themselves IAW the Jewish faith, are they still Jewish?
Substitute Christian for Jewish and Jewish for Christian in my rant, it is still valid.
Screw the NYTimes.
Secular socialists are singularly inept in commenting on matters pertaining to religious faith.

177 posted on 02/25/2004 6:06:23 PM PST by sarasmom (Vote no on all judicial retentions. Dont vote for any new judges. Impeach the rest.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Hollywood has been blacklisting Christians for years. This is nothing new.
178 posted on 02/25/2004 6:08:14 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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To: SauronOfMordor
But .. because it's a blockbuster, Mel will have plenty of money to do whatever he wants.

Hollyweird is just jealous of Mel's success, and that's why they're whining.
179 posted on 02/25/2004 6:10:34 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: SauronOfMordor; All
I'm sure that Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn, The Dixie Chicks, and other established liberal defenders of freedom of expression and speech will rush to Mel Gibson's side in a show of support. . . .


Let the double standard begin!
180 posted on 02/25/2004 6:10:59 PM PST by Tempest (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">)
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