Islam in Conflict in Cleveland

TCS ^ | 02/24/2004 | STEPHEN SCHWARTZ

[fatidic]

Everything that sounds good and is what Americans want to believe written by this Lebonese Muslim is a BIG FAT LIE!

[JimRed]

...Muslims in America were reluctant to stand up and challenge the virtual dictatorship of the Islamist ideology. This was not because of sympathy for Wahhabism, but because of more complex sociological issues.

Complex sociological issue #1: They'll kill us along with the unbelievers...

[Valin]

Chapter and verse please.

[nuconvert]

Is Stephen Schwartz a Lebanese muslim?

[Happy2BMe]

I make no excuses for dispising Islam.

I've seen it in ation in it's purest form up close and personal.

Have you?

[Valin]

I think he was referring to Shaykh Kabbani.

[nuconvert]

What about "Everything that sounds good and is what Americans want to believe written by Stephen Schwartz?"
He a liar too?

[Valin]

Hate will lead you to the same place as the terroists.

Yes there are millions of Muslims outthere that hate us and want to see us dead, BUT there are 100s of millions who don't.



"I will permit no man to narrow and degrade my soul by making me hate him."
Booker T. Washington

[happygrl]

Call me a sceptic, but I'm not buying.

Immigrant Muslims come to America to escape Islamist radicalism, and are shocked and intimidated to discover the extent of extremist influence in their community. Most of them would never have believed, in the countries from which they came, that the American authorities would permit an Islamist conspiracy to take control of their faith on our shores.

This is America. It is YOUR responsibility, Muslims, to run your own mosques.

If you objected to it, why has it taken so long to raise the alarm ?

Start your own mosque.

This is what thousands of Christians and Jews have done for hundreds of years in this country.

We donate our own money to build the church and pay the salaries of our clergy, and not put ourselves in a dependency on foreigners.

[nuconvert]

Great piece.
Thanks.

[fatidic]

You've been around long enough to be outed as an obstinate supporter of dangerous fantasies. You will not succeed in your defense of the indefensible. The truth has been spoken and will continue to be believed over your not-so-subltle propaganda.

I am responding for the benefit of others since I have long ago realized what you are.

[valkyrieanne]

Is Stephen Schwartz a Lebanese muslim?

I believe Stephen Schwartz was raised a Jew, went to Bosnia as a journalist, and while there converted to Islam. He is a Sufi, an Islamic sect that is supposedly more "liberal" than the typical Arab-sponsored Al-Qaeda variety. Curiously, from what I've seen, his bylines almost never reveal his Muslim affiliation.

[nuconvert]

"a Sufi, an Islamic sect that is supposedly more "liberal" than the typical Arab-sponsored Al-Qaeda variety"


LOL! Yeah, those Sufi's are real war-mongers alright. LOL!

[CommandoFrank]

Islam in America suffers from the domination of radical leaders,

Corretion: Islam in America around the world suffers from the domination of radical leaders,

[nuconvert]

"an obstinate supporter of dangerous fantasies."

LOL! Why Valin! Is THAT what you are??? LOL!

[nuconvert]

I'm gonna have to put on my "obstinate supporter of dangerous fantasies" protective headgear.
LOL!

[swarthyguy]

Our fear and trepidation to define the hostile theo-idoelogical underpinnings of the jihad, to name the enemy ideology and to finger the nation states is sad.

Sort of like denouncing the Anschluss, the taking of Czechoslovakia, and the Blitzkrieg without mention National Socialism, Nazism, or the Germans.

[zimdog]

excellent point

[Valin]

To repeat myself, chapter and verse please.