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To: judicial meanz
There were LOTS of indicators from Al Qaeda that a major international attack was imminent. That was obvious since the 2 Zawahiri tapes, followed by the complete release of the Bin Laden tape, and then the delay in Voice of Jihad. History has documented that major international attacks follow communiques from Al Qaeda leadership. That's documented - and although there are a few exceptions, it is also pretty clear that attacks were intended but were disrupted in some way.

The Bin Laden tape had the following paragraph in it. In retrospect it is clear that he activated the attack - at the time, buried in 46 minutes of talk, it was difficult to recognize. There is at least 1 other activation message in that tape, probably 2, that I have been able to identify.

In the tape he talks about the Spanish ruler being held accountable. At one glance the message appears complimentary; the doublespeak doesn't come through in the translation very well; it's more apparant in the original Arabic. It is quite clear that he plans to hold the Spanish accountable for their actions. The Madrid attack was retaliation against Spain for its part in the invasion of Iraq.

Take a look at this excerpt from Bin Laden's tape of late December/early January that was only partially released at the time, but was released in its entirety last week:

Thus, the situation of all Arab countries suffers from great deterioration in all walks of life, in religious and worldly matters. It is enough to know that the economy of all Arab countries is weaker than the economy of one country that had once been part of our [Islamic] world when we used to truly adhere to Islam. That country is the lost Andalusia. Spain is an infidel country, but its economy is stronger than our economy because the ruler there is accountable. In our countries, there is no accountability or punishment but there is only obedience to the rulers and prayers of long life for them.

4,458 posted on 03/12/2004 5:33:57 AM PST by StillProud2BeFree
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To: StillProud2BeFree
Welcome back!

In hindsight, did you find any indicators specific to attacks on trains?
4,468 posted on 03/12/2004 5:54:46 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: StillProud2BeFree
Will Osama's frustration with Arab countries backfire? He's disgusted with them. Do they reciprocate the feeling? World trade and prosperity Vs a cave nut. Seems obvious. Is this good news for us? Thoughts?

Take a look at this excerpt from Bin Laden's tape of late December/early January that was only partially released at the time, but was released in its entirety last week:

Thus, the situation of all Arab countries suffers from great deterioration in all walks of life, in religious and worldly matters. It is enough to know that the economy of all Arab countries is weaker than the economy of one country that had once been part of our [Islamic] world when we used to truly adhere to Islam. That country is the lost Andalusia. Spain is an infidel country, but its economy is stronger than our economy because the ruler there is accountable. In our countries, there is no accountability or punishment but there is only obedience to the rulers and prayers of long life for them.

4,518 posted on 03/12/2004 8:44:44 AM PST by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: StillProud2BeFree
SP2BF, you made a very clear and valid point with that excerpt.

I alluded to cooperation between Al Qaeda and the ETA, as well as other terror groups, but stopped short of coming out and saying it in the open because it was a hunch and I usually try to stick to facts. Now I will.

In my opinion, there are the beginnings of strategic partnerships between AL Qaeda and other traditionally non Arab terrorism groups. Have you seen any indication of this in your travels?
4,563 posted on 03/12/2004 11:19:14 AM PST by judicial meanz (If liberals are not totalitarian in nature, why do they need deception to get their points across?)
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To: StillProud2BeFree
That country is the lost Andalusia . Spain is an infidel country, but its economy is stronger than our economy because the ruler there is accountable. In our countries, there is no accountability or punishment but there is only obedience to the rulers and prayers of long life for them.

I don't know if you are anyone else did any research on this, if not here is some islamic background on Andalusia . Andalusia, Islamic Civilization

4,612 posted on 03/12/2004 12:56:13 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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