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To: sirshackleton
"While the clarification is appreciated, I don't think we should hold something like this against Cleland."

I don't hold his time at the front against Cleland. I do object to some of his self-portrayals, which would make him out to be Audie Murphy and Sargent York combined.
6 posted on 02/23/2004 11:26:20 AM PST by Hon
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To: Hon
All I know about you here is your consistant attacks on the service records of Kerry and Cleland. You need to find another bone to gnaw on. Both of these guys enlisted and both volunteered for combat zone assignments. What they did subsequent to returning to the US in no way diminishes their service, except for those of you who wish to believe so.

A serious question for you to answer or ignore...when did you serve and what hazardous duty did you volunteer for?

18 posted on 02/23/2004 11:39:07 AM PST by wtc911 (I got the motive which is money and the body which is dead.)
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To: Hon
I do object to some of his self-portrayals, which would make him out to be Audie Murphy and Sargent York combined.

This is the problem I have with the whole situation, and a lot of it is not of Cleland's making. Others are distorting the record to advance their own political agendas. Cleland should disavow any attempts to make the circumstances of his injuries out to be more than they were. If he does not do this, if he willingly allows others to distort the record as it regards him, then he should be held accountable for that failing. But, I think he himself has been fairly above-board in disavowing any "heroism" act. It is true that he spilled blood and left limbs on the battlefield, but it was the result of an unfortunate accident, not enemy action.

Fact is, Max Cleland was elected to the Senate by his fellow citizens. As far as I know he served honorably there, although I think he may have tainted his career, as everyone else did who did so, by his defense of President Scumbag. In the end, he compiled a voting record that was at odds with what a majority of his voting constituents wanted, so he was sent home. That should be the issue wrt Max Cleland. We aren't going to get a lot of traction picking over his war record.

25 posted on 02/23/2004 11:42:13 AM PST by chimera
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