[Fee]

In NJ there is a town call Ocean Grove. It was a Methodist Camp town until the 1970's when the NJ Supreme Court declared that a church cannot own a town and operate a municipal government. The town was forced to become part of Neptune Township and give up many of her religious safeguards. The last ten years, gay couples brought and rented summer homes in the town. The gay men are very discreet and refrain from demonstrating their affections because they are mindful that the resort town also caters to families. Otherwise they can ruin the economy of the resort town. The lesbians on the otherhand do not show any restraint. Tonguing and kissing in public, and wearing provocative leather and stud costumes. They do not seem to possess the discretion of their male counterparts. Thus this article does not surprise me. Any freepers have the same observations?

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

Why am I not surprised about this?

[Sub-Driver]

is Ocean Grove the next town south of Asbury Park?

[jocon307]

"Any freepers have the same observations?"

I think that lesbianism is much more politicized than male homosexuality. I don't think too many men "go gay" in order to "make a statement" about the world, themselves or whatever. The same cannot be said for lesbians. I venture that while most men who are homosexual just are (and I don't mean to imply they are born that way, just that it is not an overt choice on their part) many, many women have been turned to lesbianism via radical feminism and a more active recruitment ethos among lesbians.

This is my impression, I certainly can't prove it. But hey, I grew up in NYC and my own brother was gay (he died, that's why I say was) so I'm pretty sophisticated and not just talking out of my elbow.

[GeronL]

I have seen small towns for sale on e-bay (the one in southern New Mexico was pretty nice), why can't a church own one?? You could!

[Mamzelle]

Observations from freepers? Maybe there are some uncomfortable ones to be made--such as how straight men often regard lesbians as a turn-on , the same straight guys who get the icky-poo shudders around homosexual men...

Lesbians get more approval from straight men than homosexual men do. Guys like to see them go at it--part of porn and fetishism.

Oh, I grant that straight women tend to become attached to some "sweet" guys through some mutual interest (generally Style), but homosexual men are not any kind of a "turn-on" for straight women.