LET'S TALK ABOUT "YOUR" JOBS

Nealz Nuze ^ | Wednesday, February 18, 2004 | Neal Boortz

[beaureguard]

Jobs .. and the economy. Those seem to be the issues that are driving many, if not most, of those who are supporting the Kerry candidacy.

First of all ... I'm going to repeat this simply because it makes the whiners so unbelievably angry. Listen up. They're not your jobs! The jobs belong to the employers .. not to you! You have job skills and, presumably, a willingness to work. Your task in a free economy is to get out there and find some employer with a job who needs your skills ... and strike a deal.

If you do not have the particular set of job skills that an employer needs, of if you have priced your labor out of the marketplace, guess what? It's not the employer's fault. The fault lies with you. Either develop a new set of job skills that are actually in demand, or adjust your pricing. The employer knows what he's looking for you. If you're not it .. it's your problem, not his.

Now ... you say you're going to vote for a Democrat this year because of jobs? You mean to tell me that you're going to vote against George Bush this year because you don't have a set of job skills that are in demand in our free marketplace? Yeah .. that makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?

Tell me. Just what do you want the president to do? You information technology people out there .. just what are you demanding? Do you want companies to stop outsourcing IT jobs to India? OK ... tell me how to do that. These companies aren't shipping parts overseas and completed products back. All they do is ship information overseas by phone lines or the Internet. Then that information is modified and shipped back the same way. What do you want the government .. the president to do? Do you want some federal law that prohibits companies from transmitting information overseas by the Internet, having that information transformed or modified, and then shipped back? And tell me just how do you enforce that law? Does that law then apply to you also if you seek information from a company that is located overseas, thus depriving a domestic company of your business?

Ditto for manufacturing. I've already told you the story about the California company that makes computer mouses. (computer mice?) This company ships the components to China. The mouse is assembled in China and shipped back, then sold for around $40. Why? Because the assembly is cheaper in China than it would be in the US. So, you say you want the president to force this company to have that mouse assembled in the US? Fine .. then the price for the mouse goes up to about $70 a pop and sales drop. As the sales drop the jobs of the people in this country who manufacture the components for that mouse go away. Then the 100 marketing jobs this company supports in California also go away. You see, perhaps you can succeed in forcing this company to assemble these mouses in the US, but there just isn't any way you can force the American consumer to pay 80% more for the "made in America" version.

As Bruce Bartlett says in an article listed in my reading assignments, "No nation has ever gotten rich by forcing its citizens to pay more for domestic goods and services that could have been procured more cheaply abroad."

What we are seeing here is a demonstration of the "government owes me" mentality of far too many Americans. Every time you arrive at a speed bump in your life's journey you start screaming to the government for help. Sure, the speed bump is going to slow you down a bit ... but just keep moving forward and things inevitably pick up speed again. Americans are becoming helpless whiners. The more helpless you are, and the more you whine, the more likely it is you're going to vote for a Democrat. Democrats specialize in stroking the malcontent.

Congratulations, whiners. At a time when America if fighting World War IV, the war against Islamic terrorism ... you're going to vote for a candidate who wants to treat terrorism as a freaking law enforcement problem because you've made some pitiful jobs choices. Pitiful.

[hedgetrimmer]

Who are the groups "negotiating" the "free trade" agreements in the Western Hemisphere that are wreaking so much havoc in the US economy?

The Tripartite Committee, which consists of the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB), the Organization of American States (OAS) and the United Nations Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean (ECLAC).

So free trade in the western hemisphere is not negotiated by our congress and constitutional authorities but by the United Nations. Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that what is being negotiated is not free trade? How can anyone on this forum argue that "free trade" is good for America, when the interests of America are not considered at all in any of the "free trade" agreements that have created outsourcing, lowered the natural disinclination of a free people to trade with a nation that produces goods by slave labor, sold out Constitutional authority of our Congress to business councils and marxist federations of states, and given negotiating authority for US trade agreements to our arch enemy, the organization that despises everything American but our US taxpayer dollars, the United Nations?

[hedgetrimmer]

If you read the charter, you will see that the FTAA is a marxist federation of states. There are no elections for the governing bodies, they are appointed.

All the people on this forum that argue for free trade, know full well that free trade is a way to implement global government and they support that. When they say there are no "American jobs" they are telling you what they believe, because they believe there is no America anymore, just a regional trade zone known as North America, with is just a cog in the Western Hemispheric Trade zone. And that is why they believe corporations do not have to support American values, ethics, or its national economy.

So in a way they are right, when America ceases to exist at the implementation of the Free Trade Area of the Americas pact, there will be no American jobs, because America will only be memory in the minds of the old folks.

[KC_Conspirator]

Its this type of article that shows the outright avarice of people like Boortz. If he thinks that just because some CEO got a million dollar raise because he sent 5000 American jobs to India, than he is not doing a whole hell of alot for his country. I guess he scoffed at the "Buy American" campaign of Ronald Reagan.

[Mortimer Snavely]

"What if we added Mexican states to the US..."

Actually, the reverse is becoming the case. Large parts of the USA are being added to Mexico through illegal immigration. Anschluss and lebensraum is calledAztlan and reconquista these days, with Bush's full compliance.

[navyblue]

i work in a grocery store and live with my folks and pay for car and school at the same time. no loans. plan ahead, itll pay off.

Are you serious? The average American family is a husband, wife and two kids. They don't live with mommie and daddie and cannot survive on your grocery store wage.

[briant]

He is a man who makes obscene amounts of money talking. He reminds me of the hollywood left in that they do not have real skills to do anything, make so much money as to lose touch with planet earth, and think they have an understanding of how the real world works. They don't seem to understand the world won't work if evereyone were yapping on the radio all day. So people have to actually do things, and be compensated.

And, of course don't dare get in the way of their "freedon" to buy products made in some third world tyrannical hell-hole.

[hedgetrimmer]

The idea here is not to increase the influence of America and American values in the hemisphere, but to dilute them or annihilate them.

[Freedom4US]

As Bruce Bartlett says in an article listed in my reading assignments, "No nation has ever gotten rich by forcing its citizens to pay more for domestic goods and services that could have been procured more cheaply abroad."

Nonsense, how does Bruce think the United States nurtured fledgling industries for 150 years? That's right - tariffs. It's OK to have differing opinions, but not OK to be wrong in the facts used to support those opinions.

[Taliesan]

It did. Neither I, nor anyone I know, spent the tax cut because of "fear for the economy".

I spent mine on a new bathtub. It is neither a Democratic nor a Republican tub.

[Poohbah]

Nonsense, how does Bruce think the United States nurtured fledgling industries for 150 years? That's right - tariffs.

Which, of course, led to the US Navy having to pay through the nose to buy ships from foreign shipyards in 1898, because we weren't building modern warships--our "protected" steel and shipbuilding industries were rather backward compared to everyone else's, especially free-trading Britain.

[Walkin Man]

Sigh, here we go again.

I can’t believe that defending the idea of good paying jobs for American gets you branded a democrat, DU plant, communist, socialist, etc. ,on this board.

I am an independent voter who has always voted republican until this year.

I have been on this board since 98 and I did a whole lot more than most people to get GW elected the first time.

Why can’t you republicans see what you are doing? You are handing the government over to the Rat party on a sliver platter and you are so blind that you abuse and run off the very people that are trying to warn you!

The exporting of the American middle-class lifestyle will not be tolerated forever and if the Republican party is going to chain itself to the idea, then it will go down into the “dustbin of history” with it.

I don’t care what your BS “free trade” theory is and neither do the people, many of whom were base republican voters, that are losing everything they had worked for, went to school for, sweated for, fought in wars for, because some poor sap in India is willing to do the job for starvation wages or a slave laborer in the workers paradise of Red China has a gun to his head held there by the communist government and Wal-Mart!!

Our government must protect the American people against aggression and attack from foreign countries and we are under attack NOW economically from countries that keep their tariffs against our goods, products, and services and manipulate their currencies to our disadvantage as well.

We sure as hell are not under any obligation to promote “free trade” with countries what cheat against us from day one of the trade agreement.

I realize that many on this board could care less if the majority of Americans are well off or not, but if you expect to have a national party based on the well-being of CEO’s and their ravenous greed only, it won’t work.

But go ahead, ride that horse right into the ground, don’t let me or any of the many other people on this board that know what is going to happen stop you.

Maybe you will wake up after 8 years of demoRat rule, course it may be too late by then but, you had your chance…

[P.O.E.]

I'm still waiting for someone to open up that nationwide chain of stores that sell only "Made in America" goods. Or an investment club that specializes in companies that do all their hiring, etc., here in the US.

[navyblue]

There is Capitalism in third world countries --- such as Mexico ---- but very few participate in it ---- what those countries lack is a middle class.

Here's a good example: Wasn't Mexico's petroleum industry actually developed by American corportations in the earlier part of the twentieth century? And then what happened? Oh yes! The corrupt Mexican government decided this was a pretty sweet deal, nationalized it and called it Pemex. I'm a little fuzzy on that now but that's what sticks in my mind.

So here's a thought! Since the government cannot stop any American corporation from outsourcing, maybe they ought to at least tell them that if they get taken over by some third world bandito, they are on their own and the American military absolutely will not come down to bail their sorry butts out! In other words, do it at your own risk and we're not sacrificing any American lives for your corporate treasury.

[bray]

And you are earning more than just being a slave to some big a** corporation?

You got that right! I used to work for Ellen Ratner and her brother. So I am not giving anymore money directly or indirectly to the Rat-ner Party!

Pray for W and The Truth

[going hot]

I hope those 6 thousand dollar shower curtains and 2 million dollar birthday parties...

No, you have it backwards, it is the 2 mil shower curtains and 6 thou parties we hold for our children. Get your priorities straight man, or you will never be a eeeleeet rebublican money hungry, screw everyone but me type of guy. You will be a mere pawn, a poor underclassman, with nary a bridge to hovel under while you eat mulligan stew cooked over your meager fire in a used coffee can.

[Poohbah]

In other words, you'd give every nation in the world a license to steal from Americans.

Followed by every country in the world taking you up on your offer.

Followed by giving every American's 401K a huge hit.

[BrooklynGOP]

And the COUNTRY belongs to US, not the Hyper-Capitalists.

And who should the corporations belong to?

[Steve_Seattle]

"The rest of us should satisfied with cheap crap, produced simply so that we can buy it so that the corporation will garner more profit."

Ok, what's your solution? But before you propose your solution, here's what you're tinkering with: a country in which most people own their own hones, own one or more cars, a computer, washer and dryer, electrical appliances, indoor plumbing, access to health care, free public education, etc, and with unemployment generally half of what it is in the socialist economies you seem to be promoting. Remind me what it is you are trying to fix.

[Steve_Seattle]

"AOL's customer service is in Bombay"

And your computer was probably made in China, as are most toys in this country. If you insist the computer be made in the USA, the price will quadruple, sales will drop, stores will close, etc. People have been complaining about the loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs for DECADES, yet somehow we still haven't attained Third World status.

[navyblue]

And smug SOBs like the author of this screed need to remember...even in your job seems safe and unoutsourceable (eg,lawyer), how does that help you if-because of the loss first of manufacturing jobs, then of customer service jobs, then of white collar/professional jobs-no one can afford to buy your services?

And if no one can afford to buy your services, then it should be obvious even to you that your income is going to plummet along with all the other riff raff!