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To: Lazamataz
Siemens is a German company. So, they outsourced to us and now are sending it elsewhere. hmmm... shouldn't the Germans be the ones complaining?
22 posted on 02/17/2004 5:28:46 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: Cronos
Siemens is a German company.

With an extremely large US presence. They even bought a company I worked for.

25 posted on 02/17/2004 5:41:16 AM PST by Lazamataz (I know exactly what opinion I am permitted to have, and I am zealous -- nay, vociferous -- in it!!!)
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To: All
RE: offshore businesses

What about our "offshore" Congress?

More recently, the Senate approved a bill aimed at restricting outsourcing of contracts from two federal departments. The House has not acted on similar legislation.

Gee, I wonder why the House is lagging. Here's a hint. These Washington-based India government organizations have more influence in "our" House of Representatives than we do

http://www.usindiafriendship.net/ and http://www.usinpac.com/

or see what some Americans have learned about the 170 members of Congress owned by the India government (the House India Caucus). See

http://www.outsourcecongress.org

or go directly to the IndiaPAC page at

http://www.outsourcecongress.org/rep/indiapac/

Don't even thnk about what the chi-coms own in Washington.

Though the free traders scream about government interfering they don't seem to mind India and Chinese governments' mucking up free trade as long as it benefits their "free trade" pocketbooks.

Also, somewhere out there in Googleland is a dollar amount that U.S. taxpayers (OPIC, Ex-Im Bank, special programs, etc.) have risked/spent supporting our "capitalist" corporations' efforts to build infrastructures and factories for India and China. To free traders that kind of government interference is "capitalism" -- as long as it benefits them.

29 posted on 02/17/2004 6:17:08 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: Cronos
Siemens is a German company. So, they outsourced to us and now are sending it elsewhere. hmmm... shouldn't the Germans be the ones complaining?

Only if we penalize German imports the way India penalizes our exports. Last time I checked, you could purchase any number of German products, at prices commensurate to their quality. (caveat: with the merging of Chrysler/Benz the quality of the former has increased and the latter, decreased - buy a Beemer, you'll be glad you did.)

38 posted on 02/17/2004 6:53:24 AM PST by Jim Cane
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To: Cronos; Lazamataz
Siemens is a German Company--but they bought the electrical-equipment assets of ITT: breakers, switches, distribution centers, etc.

Thus, some of the Siemens operations are really American organizations which happen to have the Siemens nameplate.

Reverse is true with Rockwell/Allen-Bradley, who bought the Swiss 'Sprecher & Schuh' nameplate, (same kind of equipment) years ago, and for practical purposes, has moved most of its breaker/control manufacturing businesses offshore as a result.
44 posted on 02/17/2004 7:11:46 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Cronos
Siemens is a German company. So, they outsourced to us and now are sending it elsewhere. hmmm... shouldn't the Germans be the ones complaining?

Siemens has made pruchases of American companies. The model they have used is a symbiotic one. They have raised their presence in the American market to sell their goods and to produce goods bound for the US that are cheaper to make here due to shipping costs.

If our corporations were only setting up an Indian presence to better service the Indian market there would be no complaining and Free-Trade would reign.

136 posted on 02/18/2004 7:32:54 AM PST by stig
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