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What Bush vs Kerry is really all about
Jim Robinson

Posted on 02/16/2004 8:16:44 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Forget the current hullabaloo regarding the thirty some odd year old service records of the two candidates and all the other hysterical, hypocritical, hyperbolic horse hockey being raised by the Democrats and their operatives.

Here's the commonsense bottom line of what the coming election is about:

Either we re-elect President Bush or we allow President Kerry and the Democrats to surrender our national sovereignty, our national security and our national defense to the United Nations and other so-called world government bodies. The Democrats do not believe that war is sometimes necessary to defend the nation and or our national interests. The Democrats do not believe that the United States has the right to self-defense. The Democrats do not care about our national security or defending our national sovereignty. It's not in their game plan. In fact their game plan includes acquiescing to the United Nations, a world court and a world government. There's absolutely no doubt about it. It's in the record.

Either we re-elect President Bush or we allow President Kerry and the Democrats to increase our taxes and continue increasing our taxes until they totally destroy our economy and our ability to compete in world markets. Bush is a sworn tax cutter. Kerry is a sworn tax raiser. No doubt about it. It's in the record.

Either we re-elect President Bush or we allow President Kerry and the Democrats to kiss off our traditional man/woman marriage and from this point on it'll be anything goes. Bush defends traditional family values and a moral society. Kerry promotes the feminist/abortionist/homosexualist agenda, no matter how absurd, perverse, abhorrent or evil. No doubt about it. It's in the record.

Either we re-elect President Bush or we allow President Kerry and the Democrats to appoint and confirm nothing but NOW/NAMBLA/Globalist approved feminist/abortionist/homosexualist liberal activist judges. Bush will appoint judges who will abide by the Constitution. Kerry and the Democrats will appoint and confirm only liberal activist judges. Allow this and we can kiss our Constitution and what's left of our national sovereignty and freedom goodbye. No doubt about it. It's in the record. Period. End of story.


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To: nopardons
Jim, if your intention was to smoke out this sort, by posting this thread, here's another one, who would rather have Kerry for president.

I will give you one million dollars if you can show me where I said I would rather have Kerry for President.

All I've said is I want President Bush to work for my vote and I intend to do what I can to hold President Bush's feet to the fire rather than allow myself to be used as a political whore.

181 posted on 02/16/2004 10:41:46 PM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: summer
Difficulty is an understatement. He NEVER answered the question, because he's spent too much time maintaining whatever position floated his boat in the Senate on any given day. Edwards at least had the strength of character and wisdom to immediately acknowledge that everyone who cast that vote takes responsibility for it.

Americans are proud of what we have accomplished in Iraq and Afghanistan. Kerry's just digging himself a hole by not accepting responsibility for the success.

Kerry strikes me as very arrogant and completely lacking in charm, particularly when compared with Edwards, and Bush.

182 posted on 02/16/2004 10:42:29 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: Texas Eagle
I think that you would be happier elsewhere. My self-esteem is just fine and dandy; thank you for being concerned. :-)

You imagine that I keep copies of handwritten ( on letter paper, with a fountain pen )letters I have sent and demand that I post these nonexistent copies, as well as the replies? This from someone, who has done NOTHING ( if you had done, you would have said : " ME TOO ", instead of this prove it codswallop! )but complain on an on line forum ? You just proved that all you are is a malcontent, with the political savvy of a box of rocks.

Anyone, who calls others here, who hold another point of view, " POLITICAL WHORES " and has declared that they're probably NOT going to vote in November, is a political naif. Look up the term. You ares incapable of holding anyone's feet to the fire, when you don't support them; you become irrelevant. Staying home, means that you forfeit a voice. No political party gives a damn about those who are unreliable voters and their wishes and desires are not listened to, let alone catered to.

You do go on so about " feelings " and such. No wonder you don't care if a Dem ( GOD forbid!) is elected president. You'll warm yourself with your " principles " , just as you did through the Clinton years.

183 posted on 02/16/2004 10:45:48 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Texasforever
LMAO Yep you have him dancing a jig with your one man political hot foot.

LOL! Yeah. Isn't it weird how all these people think little ol' me can produce a Kerry Presidency by not voting for President Bush? Don't that just beat all?

184 posted on 02/16/2004 10:47:50 PM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: Texas Eagle
You know, if I were the least bit suspicious, I'd think that maybe you've had more than one name on FR, because you twist words and arguments in ways that I've seen before. You jumped on this thread to tell people why they should not re-elect the President. Then you say you may not vote at all. That's cowardly and disingenuous. If you read the thread to which you are posting, there will be two choices in November. You can vote for Kerry who will destroy the country both from without AS WELL AS FROM within, (do you think Kerry will keep the Bush tax cuts?) or you can vote for Bush.

You seem to have not made up your mind. But you do spend a lot of time sowing seeds of discord among people who intend to vote for the President. I sincerely hope you make up your mind soon.

Until then, I will have no more time for you. Good night.

185 posted on 02/16/2004 10:48:25 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Jim Robinson
Pick your poison in the coming election, demoRat or Republican.

One of them is a known enemy and will attack conservatives from the front. The other is a Benedict Arnold and will stab you in the back and has been doing it for three years.

One of them may weaken us externally, the other will weaken us internally.

A demoRat in the White house is the only thing that will make the repub's fight against a leftist agenda. They are rat party lite when they control the show.

GW and the GOP partisans don't want the votes of working middle class voters like me. They are doing everything in their power to destroy me and my kind.

These republican free traitors are so joyously gleeful every time an American loses everything he has to a slave laborer in communist China or a 15 grand a year PhD in India or a Mexican illegal, so I will repay their encouragement of the flight of over 2 million industrial jobs to Mexico and Red China.

I will repay their encouragement of the outsourcing of thousands, soon to be millions, white collar jobs to India.

I will repay their offer of amnesty to lawbreaking foreign invaders to stay and entice millions more to flood the USA and take even more of our jobs that "no American wants" by voting to outsource President Bush back to Texas.

I am nether demoRat or Republican, I am a conservative Christian voter who always votes Republican...until this fall anyway.

And believe me, I ain't the only one.

Mr Bush and Karl Rove have lost many Independents. I guess GW thinks he doesn't need our votes because of the massive landslide victory he had the first time around. /sarcasm

186 posted on 02/16/2004 10:48:59 PM PST by Walkin Man
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To: Texas Eagle
Here is an honest question. We are 9 months out from the election. There will be NO major legislation during this time and very little to hold Bush's feet to the fire with. What is it that you are demanding Bush do to win your vote?
187 posted on 02/16/2004 10:49:24 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texas Eagle
Please send me that 1 million and it better be in US dollars. You said it by implication. By stating, as a threat, that you would, you might, you're considering staying home, you give aid and comfort and support to Kerry, or whichever Dem is the presidential candidate.

You want to be wooed, seduced,and PAID, IN SOME MANNER,by President Bush, for you to vote for him. Now, THAT is what a whore expects from a client.

188 posted on 02/16/2004 10:51:33 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Walkin Man
GW and the GOP partisans don't want the votes of working middle class voters like me. They are doing everything in their power to destroy me and my kind.

Oh baloney.

189 posted on 02/16/2004 10:53:10 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Jim Robinson
HA-BANG!     You hit the nail on the head!

And with that, I'm going to bed, with JimRob's words the most intelligent I could hope to read today (Monday and Tuesday)

190 posted on 02/16/2004 10:54:56 PM PST by pittsburgh gop guy
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To: Walkin Man
Do you honestly think Kerry can stop outsourcing? This seems to be your main grievance.
191 posted on 02/16/2004 11:00:42 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: nopardons
I think that you would be happier elsewhere.

I'm happy whereever I am.

My self-esteem is just fine and dandy; thank you for being concerned. :-),/I>

Oh. So you really don't care if I look down my nose at you. Good.

You imagine that I keep copies of handwritten ( on letter paper, with a fountain pen )letters I have sent and demand that I post these nonexistent copies, as well as the replies?

Yes.

This from someone, who has done NOTHING ( if you had done, you would have said : " ME TOO ", instead of this prove it codswallop! )but complain on an on line forum ?

Maybe I just don't go around lying about what I've written to whom.

You just proved that all you are is a malcontent, with the political savvy of a box of rocks.

Sayyyyyyy.....are you looking down your nose at me?

Anyone, who calls others here, who hold another point of view, " POLITICAL WHORES " and has declared that they're probably NOT going to vote in November, is a political naif.

Yeah, but I don't throw a hissy fit when someone calls me a naif.

Look up the term.

I'll take your word for it.

You ares incapable of holding anyone's feet to the fire,

I ares?

when you don't support them; you become irrelevant.

Then why does it matter?

Staying home, means that you forfeit a voice. No political party gives a damn about those who are unreliable voters and their wishes and desires are not listened to, let alone catered to.

Sure they do. Every election is decided by the "undecided" vote.

You do go on so about " feelings " and such.

I do?

No wonder you don't care if a Dem ( GOD forbid!) is elected president.

I don't?

You'll warm yourself with your " principles " , just as you did through the Clinton years.

I warm myself with my principles regardless of who is President. Having principles really isn't as bad as you people make it sound. You should try it for yourself sometime. See for yourself.

192 posted on 02/16/2004 11:04:54 PM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: Walkin Man
The fact that you're here posting strongly suggests, in and of itself, that you won't be sitting home on election day.

The rest suggests you'll be voting for Kerry. I'd find your snake oil more effective if all you did was post jokes here. At least I'd think that maybe you really didn't give a crap who wins.

193 posted on 02/16/2004 11:06:27 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: Texas Eagle; walkingman
I hope you two can find true happiness together.
194 posted on 02/16/2004 11:06:27 PM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MEG33
Highfivin' inside the UN in NYC mebbe?
195 posted on 02/16/2004 11:07:54 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: Texasforever
Some state congressman I know have been invited out to W's ranch in Crawford a few times over the past few years. Word is, Instead of hunting deer, they release a bunch of working middle class voters onto the land. It's thier pastime you know, destroying middle class working voters.
196 posted on 02/16/2004 11:08:05 PM PST by pistola (the early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese)
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To: Texas Eagle
Revising and extending my remarks:

"The phrase goes something along the lines of: He who values security over freedom deserves neither."

Here's an important clause the founders included in the U.S. Constitution that needs to get more attention when we discuss the damage that a President Kerry and the Democrats can do to our national sovereignty, our national security and our personal freedoms if given the chance:

"Article. VI.... This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

In other words, when Kerry and the Democrats sign and ratify the Kyoto treaty, or a treaty setting up a world court or any other world body, then they become part of the "Supreme Law of the Land" with the full force and authority of the U.S. Constitution... and you can bet that these laws will become the part of the Constitution that the liberal judges will religiously enforce. And also, they will be the part of the damage that will take the longest to undo... assuming they can ever be undone.

When you give up national security and national sovereignty, you give up your personal freedom.

197 posted on 02/16/2004 11:08:10 PM PST by Jim Robinson (I don't belong to no organized political party. I'm a Republycan.)
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To: Texasforever
Oh baloney.

Typical "I got mine, go to *ell, let them eat cake" Republican free traitor response.

That and fear mongering, Kerry bimbo eruptions and a 30 year old picture of Kerry at an anti war rally seem to be Karl Rove's brilliant idea of how to get GW reelected.

Yeah, all that is really going to resonate with your average taxpayer that is scared *hitless that his job will be the next one to go offshore.

They aren't called the stupid party for nothing.

198 posted on 02/16/2004 11:09:26 PM PST by Walkin Man
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To: pistola
Word is, Instead of hunting deer, they release a bunch of working middle class voters onto the land. It's thier pastime you know, destroying middle class working voters.

LOL

199 posted on 02/16/2004 11:09:29 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Walkin Man
Typical "I got mine, go to *ell, let them eat cake" Republican free traitor response.

Oh get a job.

200 posted on 02/16/2004 11:10:21 PM PST by Texasforever
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