Canada Scandal: I'll be vindicated or resign: Martin

The Star ^ | 02/15/04 | ALEXANDER PANETTA AND JIM BROWN

[raloxk]

one party rule has a tendency to produce this type of corruption

[what's up]

The BBC is getting shaken up...let's hope CBC is next.

[DManA]

Let's just get this behind us so we can get back to hating Bush full time.

"Nothing like this has hit the Liberal party in quite a long time," said the open-line host. "The outcry has been astonishing, down on the street, in people's homes and in 1,000 offices."

[RansomOttawa]

"If the question is, did I know that people were kiting cheques, that people were making payments that were inappropriate, did I know all of those things? The answer is absolutely not. I did not know that."

Quite frankly, the idea that the Minister of Finance - simultaneously the most senior cabinet minister under the Prime Minister and the holder of the federal moneybags - knew nothing about this strains credulity almost to the breaking point.

Martin was more charitable Sunday, calling Chrétien a man of "unquestioned integrity" and saying he's sure his former boss was not personally involved in the scandal.

Bushwah. It's been a number of years since I would have said that of Chrétien personally. He himself was the target of accusations of conflict of interest over the so-called "Shawinagate" scandal: federal money granted to a hotel in his home riding of Shawinagan, of which he was once part owner, and which neighboured a golf course in which technically he was still a shareholder. This sponsorship thing is not a new scandal; it's been around for at least a couple of years. Of course, Chrétien also has a track record of shuffling his feet on issues of Parliamentary ethics.

[Paleo Conservative]

Martin was more charitable Sunday, calling Chrétien a man of "unquestioned integrity

He's right. It is unquestionable to me that Chrétien is a crook.

[NorthOf45]

'... boldly promising to resign if a public inquiry shows he had prior knowledge of a sponsorship scandal ...'

Help Wanted ... one Prime Minister. Liberals need not apply.

[Sunsong]

These two paragraphs say a lot:

""Did I hear rumours, were there articles in the newspapers that obviously I read about this?" Martin asked rhetorically. "Clearly, yes, I did hear rumours. I read the articles in the newspapers.

" "If the question is, did I know that people were kiting cheques, that people were making payments that were inappropriate, did I know all of those things? The answer is absolutely not. I did not know that." "

So Martin is saying that he did read about this and hear about it but that he did not bother to find out anything. Either the guy is corrupt or he is incompetent. He *should* resign.

[Mister_Magotchi]

He *should* resign.

Why don’t you mind your own business? This is your own words from a thread where you are telling Canadians to stop posting on FR and change their own country. :

“but wouldn't you get more done toward changing your country”

[Sunsong]

"Why don’t you mind your own business? This is your own words from a thread where you are telling Canadians to stop posting on FR and change their own country. :"

Apparently, you don't understand. This is an American site where Americans are free to speak their minds. That would include expressing our opinions about Canada, or France or Syria or any other country.

If you are not American, it is you, who should "mind your own business".

Btw, Martin *should* resign!!

[sarasmom]

You do know that FreeRepublic.com is a USA-centric website?
LOL!
Canada sucks even worse than we thought! /sarcasm//
If you want sympathy and respect for your corrupt governments internal scandals, go where all the other anti-USA, foreign people go.
(demon)crat(s) underground.

[Mister_Magotchi]

Yes this is an American site, but I bet Jim Robinson wouldn’t appreciate all the rude comments you make to the Canadians who are our freedom loving friends and have been dues paying freepers longer than you.

[Mister_Magotchi]

Hope you are kidding?

I am not from Canada, and have never been there.

I just have ran across sunsong on so many threads telling good, freedom loving Canadians to stay away from FR and solve their own countries problems.

I just took the oportunity to tell her the same thing she says to them.

How would you want others to judge you by Bill Clintons politics?

[Sunsong]

"Yes this is an American site, but I bet Jim Robinson wouldn’t appreciate all the rude comments you make to the Canadians who are our freedom loving friends and have been dues paying freepers longer than you."

Why don't you ask him and find out?

Defending Canada is NOT the purpose of this site. The purpose of this site is furthering conservatism *in* America. Those foreigners who come here to defend their anti-American countries are not honoring the purpose of thise site, imo.

[Mister_Magotchi]

Mister-Migotchi: "Yes this is an American site, but I bet Jim Robinson wouldn’t appreciate all the rude comments you make to the Canadians who are our freedom loving friends and have been dues paying freepers longer than you."

Sunsong: “Why don't you ask him and find out?” Defending Canada is NOT the purpose of this site. The purpose of this site is furthering conservatism *in* America. Those foreigners who come here to defend their anti-American countries are not honoring the purpose of thise site, imo.

Okay I will ask him.

Jim, do you approve of sunsong telling good freedom loving Canadian freepers that they should not be on freerepublic, because this is just for Americans?

examples: rude remarks to Running Joke at

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073335/posts

rude remarks to albertbound, and hawkaw at

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/mail-view?m=2944488&mbx=inbox

While you are at it , you might want to take a good overall look at sunsong, I am not so sure her motive is to further any conservative agenda. She is mostly pushing an animal rights agenda, or picking fights with Canadian freepers?

[Lancey Howard]

As far as I'm concerned, the Canadians can go cry in their milk. They elected and re-elected these liberal scumbags for years and now - - shock! - - they have just discovered that the liberals they elected are lying scumbags and crooks, just like the liberals in the United States?

Gimme a break.

They're whining about being ripped off of $100 million but barely a peep about the $200 million (and climbing) ripoff known as "the gun registry boondoggle".

Wake me up if and when Canada ever gets it's collective head out of its butt.

[Lancey Howard]

In all seriousness, here is a very good site. It is more or less the Canadian version of Free Republic. I like to visit from time to time, although I do not post comments there.

Free Dominion

[Sunsong]

"Jim, do you approve of sunsong telling good freedom loving Canadian freepers that they should not be on freerepublic, because this is just for Americans?"

Be careful. I have not said that foreigners should not be on Free Republic. I have said that they are not honoring the purpose of this site when they, for example, defend the anti-Americanism of Canada.

My posts speak for themselves.

I happen to love animals. That does not make me an "animal rights person". It makes me an animal lover. I also think that humans are to be good stewarts of the earth. That's my opinion. So sue me.

[Mister_Magotchi]

Why do you think I should go there?

Because I have voiced my concern about insults to good freedom loving Canadians?

Are Americans all bad because we elected Clinton?

[Sunsong]

What is your opinion of this quite common anti-American drivel coming out of Canada?:

"As the United States descends into fascism, the importance of Canada, North America's only civil society, is greater than ever.

"That's why the new border crossing at the Peace Bridge will be so significant. The $43-million facility won't change Canada-U.S. relations or make this a better country, but, in its own quiet way, it says a lot about who we are and, more important, who we're not.

"Designed by Toronto's NORR Architects, the reworked Canadian Plaza at Fort Erie, Ont., is a small but telling gesture intended to convey the image of a place where people are still welcome, of a nation that hasn't succumbed to paranoia..."

anti-American sentiment from Canada