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Jerusalem Wall Collapse Sparks Jewish-Muslim Row: MUSLIMS CONTINUE ATTEMPT TO ERASE JEWISH HISTORY
rEUTERS ^ | Jerusalem Wall Collapse Sparks Jewish-Muslim Row

Posted on 02/15/2004 12:17:52 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The collapse of part of Jerusalem's Western Wall during a rare snowstorm sparked a row between Jewish and Muslim clerics Sunday as one rabbi called it a miracle no worshippers were hurt.

The collapse late Saturday of an 800-year-old embankment next to where Jewish women pray at the site commonly known as the "wailing wall" sent people fleeing from tumbling rocks.

The Muslim authority for the area, the Waqf, blamed Israeli building work nearby for the problem; but an Israeli architect said construction by Arabs was making the wall unstable.

"It's a miracle nobody was hurt," said rabbi Shmuel Rabinovich, blaming time and the weather for the collapse.

Engineers were also looking at whether a small earthquake last week might have played a part in the incident. Israeli police kept people away from the site Sunday.

The head of the Waqf, whose authority includes the Al-Aqsa mosque above the wall, said it had been complaining about Israeli renovations of the Western Wall plaza for some time.

"We've been saying it could cause problems," said Adnan al-Husseini.

Israeli archaeologist Eilat Mazar said it was the fifth time in two years that parts of the walls had begun to crumble, buckle or crack as a result of what she called unsupervised construction by the Waqf -- a charge the Muslim clerics deny.

"What concerns me most is the Temple Mount itself is in danger of collapsing...The earthquake has certainly done more damage but nobody goes to check," she told Reuters.

Jewish women worship separately from men and Rabinovich said partitions would be set up in the men's section to allow women to pray there until their area was made safe after the collapse.

New Yorker Frady Schwartz, praying at the wall Sunday, was unfazed; she said with a shrug: "It's in God's hands."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: jerusalem; templemount; zionist
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After thousands of years, these rocks start falling because of a little snow? I don't think so.
1 posted on 02/15/2004 12:17:53 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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To: rantblogger; monkeyshine; dennisw; yonif; Alouette
From Ha'aretz According to the archaeologists of the Committee for Preventing the Destruction of Antiquities on the Temple Mount, the underground work done by the Muslim waqf and the Israeli Islamic Movement in the area of Solomon's Stables and the ancient Al-Aqsa over the last few years has altered the land and increased the danger of a collapse. The waqf rejects this, saying it employed authorized engineers to supervise all the work.
2 posted on 02/15/2004 12:22:40 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl; Yehuda; dennisw; Alouette; yonif; 2sheep; Simcha7; Jeremiah Jr; Mr. Mojo; ...

A woman walks in the Western Wall plaza, Judaism's holiest site, in east Jerusalem's Old City, backdropped by a collapsed wall on the ramp leading to al-Aqsa mosque coumpound, known by Jews as the Temple Mount, Sunday Feb. 15, 2004. The wall collapsed late Saturday, no one was injured, and Jewish prayers in the adjacent women's section at the Western Wall were cancelled. The ramp is used only by non-Muslim visitors. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty)

3 posted on 02/15/2004 1:22:31 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Cinnamon Girl
something is going to happen so that the Third Temple can be built ... I don't have any idea what event or series of events it is, but it is going to happen ... guaranteed ...
4 posted on 02/15/2004 1:22:36 PM PST by Bobby777
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Reuters link
5 posted on 02/15/2004 1:27:12 PM PST by Alouette (I chose to NOT have an abortion -- 9 times.)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
A Jewish worshipper looks at a section of wall adjacent to Jerusalem's Western Wall which collapsed during a snow-storm, causing police to close off the women's prayer section until repairs could be made to the Jerusalem holy site, February 15, 2004. Israel's Antiquities Authority said it was checking to find out what caused the wall, which dates back almost 1,000 years, to buckle.  REUTERS/Gil Cohen Magen
Sun Feb 15, 8:17 AM ET
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A Jewish worshipper looks at a section of wall adjacent to Jerusalem's Western Wall which collapsed during a snow-storm, causing police to close off the women's prayer section until repairs could be made to the Jerusalem holy site, February 15, 2004. Israel's Antiquities Authority said it was checking to find out what caused the wall, which dates back almost 1,000 years, to buckle. REUTERS/Gil Cohen Magen


6 posted on 02/15/2004 1:44:33 PM PST by Alouette (I chose to NOT have an abortion -- 9 times.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Snow can weigh as much as 20lbs per square foot to as much as 150lbs per square foot (varies by depth and density). Using the low end end numbers over a normal width street for a city block (33ft x 660ft x 20lbs/ft2) = 217 tons of snow.

Depending on the condition of the earthen and stone ramp that usually is in desert conditions, it could indeed collapse under snow loads.

7 posted on 02/15/2004 1:51:39 PM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Folks, long after "Islam" has become an archaic word known only to archaeologists and linguists, Judaism and Christianity will be doing just fine.

8 posted on 02/15/2004 1:57:14 PM PST by pabianice
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To: jriemer
Do you think this is the first time it has snowed in 800+ years?
9 posted on 02/15/2004 2:02:47 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl
========= Israel: Joseph's Tomb =========

Joseph's Tomb, after the Arab terrorists first destroyed it,
then after the Israelis restored it, and then again after the Arab and Palestinian terrorists struck again.


Early destruction of Joseph's Tomb by Arab terorists.


Then Joseph's Tomb, rerestored by Israel, tolerant of all religions,


Joseph's Tomb, after the Arab and Palestinian terrorists
resavaged the site, in their typical "pieceful" way.

'

10 posted on 02/15/2004 2:04:05 PM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
After thousands of years, these rocks start falling because of a little snow? I don't think so.
The 5.1 Earthquake probably joslted the structure, however, the Waqf is digging down there to destroy Jeweish antiquitis. They did a better job than they thought.
11 posted on 02/15/2004 2:32:26 PM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: Thinkin' Gal; rebdov; Jeremiah Jr; dennisw
Read Isaiah 30
12 posted on 02/15/2004 2:33:23 PM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: Bobby777
And just as the pagan emperors Cyrus [Koresh] and Darius [Daryavesh] helped to build the Temple of old, so it will be with George Bush in our own times.
13 posted on 02/15/2004 2:34:42 PM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
What did Nostradamus say would happen when the Wall falls in the East?
14 posted on 02/15/2004 2:35:29 PM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: rmlew
God is watching all this. He has a long memory, so if I were an Arab, I'd be worried.
15 posted on 02/15/2004 2:35:51 PM PST by hershey
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To: Chris Talk
And when you shall see the Abomination of Desolation, standing in the holy place, where it ought not to be...

Then let him that is in Judea flee to the mountains;
it he is in the field, let him not go back to the house to get his coat...
16 posted on 02/15/2004 2:40:59 PM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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For anyone not familiar with the Western Wall, that corner area where you can see a doorway is an inside area where women pray when the weather is too harsh to stand outside.

17 posted on 02/15/2004 2:43:32 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl
wow. I can still remember how it looked like when it was built up.
18 posted on 02/15/2004 3:21:11 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Zechariah 6:12

Thus says the Lord of hosts, Behold the man whose name is TZEMAKH [bushy vigorous new growth shooting up from root of an old tree or plant] ...and he {"shall arise"= [yitzmakh]} out of his place, and he shall build the Temple [heikhel] of the Lord. And they that are far off shall come and build the Temple of the Lord, and ye shall know that the Lord of Hosts has set him unto you. And this shall come to pass, if you will diligently obey the voice of the Lord your G-d.

Paging GWB?
19 posted on 02/15/2004 3:23:24 PM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Post now no 19 on this thread
20 posted on 02/15/2004 3:24:44 PM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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