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To: citizen
Lots of questions, but I think I can answer succinctly. Much of this stuff I will write is my assumption and some was actually discussed. The panel seemed to be on the same track as I am so I can't really separate it out, but here goes........

The interview in a reference to the application that the currently illegal alien will be asked to comply with in order to get his/her special work visa.

They do not yet have a protocol, but are discussing it.

What they will want to know is the usual ID questions for a security check and the answers to questions relating to the work. Where are you going to work? Name of company. location, number of employees if known, name of supervisor or boss. What are you going to do for this company? Rate of pay, number of hours, cash or check, are taxes withheld, social security etc.

Then I would presuppose that questions might be asked like: How long have you been here? How did you live and where? Addresses? How many of your family is here now? Names, and addresses, phone numbers of family, contacts, friends...

You see where I am going with this.

In addition, they would review their documents and verify them.

Since the granting of the application for the visa depends on a verified job, then all that would be done in addition to the clearance.

A substantial fine will be assessed to help defray the costs of this program and the illegal would be held until all is processed and approved. If approved a biometric ID would be issued. If not approved the person would be deported immediately.

They want to do this at a fast clip. Some would sail through and other would be held for as long as it takes.

It was said by some that the logistics would be doable.

I am only addressing the illegals who turn themselves in. The ones who do not will be picked up eventually because they will have difficulty finding work due to a lack of employers as the newly obtained info goes to the enforcement people.

New applications will be accepted from all countries as the program is set up. All these visas will be issued hand and glove with a verified job.

No verified job, no reason for a work visa. They will work the ongoing verification like a probation system. If they lose the job or it ends, they lose their visa.

The data based created from the interview is key to locating the employers, the relatives and the contacts for each person. That data is needed to enforce the law.

Question that I still have about family visitation and the like were posed, but not discussed. There was so much and so little time.

As to the different feelings of the panel, there were basically three groups.

Those adamantly opposed to everything. Those who admired the president for taking this on and getting something started and the democrats who say it is too little but a start, and they did not show up.

The consensus was that what ever is done has to have the understanding and support of the general public because of the distrust of congress on this issue. It was noted more than once that the employer was key to the success. They must be controlled to control the influx of people looking for jobs.

It was also noted that a big problem surfaced when border controls were stiffened. People stayed and did not go home because they were afraid they could never return.

It was pointed out that the circular movement had to be restarted and that it was key to the success of any reform.

The totally opposed faction was listened to but not agreed with. The consensus was that something had to be done and it had to be 100% effective this time around without any doubt of failure.

I agree with that consensus.

204 posted on 02/13/2004 10:17:41 PM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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To: wirestripper
Interesting thoughts on the proposals.

I remain, at best, quite skeptical. You mentioned the public doesn't trust Congress. Right and with good reason.

Any plan as complicated as what you describe can only, after the media and lobbyists and interested-party groups on all sides apply their pressure, become proceedures rife with loopholes, waivers, regional vs region concerns, slap-on-the-wrist penalties and the like.

Should the President detail such a plan and fight for it backed by a veto threat if it's watered down, I will listen.

My plan is easier: Significant prison time for hiring Illegals, no exceptions. "Ignorance of the law is no excuse."

If there are no jobs the problem will dramatically lessen. I'll pay more for my BLT.
232 posted on 02/14/2004 11:33:45 AM PST by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo President 2004!)
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