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University Unveils Method to Turn Ethanol into Hydrogen
Pioneer Press ^
| Thu, Feb. 12, 2004
| DENNIS LIEN
Posted on 02/12/2004 4:53:51 PM PST by wallcrawlr
University of Minnesota scientists have figured out an efficient way to capture hydrogen from ethanol, a development that could provide a simultaneous boost to efforts to create a hydrogen economy and the states ethanol industry.
The discovery, outlined in the Feb. 13 issue of Science magazine, appears to remove a key obstacle in the effort to reduce societys dependence on imported fuels such as gasoline and natural gas.
Even though hydrogen is the most common element on earth, the process of isolating it has been costly, dirty and energy consuming, thereby limiting its appeal.
Enter Lanny Schmidt, Regents professor of chemical engineering at the university, and two assistants, Gregg Deluga and graduate student James Salge.
Over the past year, theyve built a reactor that converts ethanol, a renewable corn-based product produced in 14 plants statewide, into hydrogen. That, in turn, can be used to power a fuel cell, a battery-like device that converts hydrogen and oxygen into electricity and heat.
Schmidt said the reactor can be built small enough to hold in a hand and could in five or more years provide electricity for houses, lighted billboards, and air-conditioning units in vehicles.
Eventually, he said, it could be used as an alternative fuel source in automobiles, as well as for decentralized power systems. Every county or town could build its own local power system rather than having to have a megaplant, Schmidt said.
The scientists accomplished the breakthrough by making two adjustments to a process already used to extract hydrogen from methane, natural gas and gasoline.
The first was altering the composition of a material that acted as a catalyst to convert the ethanol into hydrogen. The second was using an automotive fuel injector that vaporizes an ethanol-water mix.
We really dont understand why the catalyst works so very well, said Deluga, who suggested the ceria option after reading about its properties
Asked how he happened to focus on it, he said, I just had an inkling it might work.
He (Deluga) said it was brilliance, Schmidt said jokingly. I said it was a wild guess.
The effort was not without complications. For a long time, the project was plagued by fires in the reactor, but that problem eventually was solved.
We were kind of surprised nobody had done it previously, Schmidt explained. But after you look at it, we see why people may have tired and given up.
Private industries, he said, have a keen interest in hydrogen technology and can be expected to expand on the technologys opportunities and options.
The most obvious immediate boost, Schmidt said, is to the states ethanol industry, which relies on homegrown corn. Its energy content, he said, is similar to other fossil fuels such as natural gas.
Someone made the line up that Minnesota is the Saudia Arabia of renewable products, he said. We could supply the energy needs of the country from the Upper Midwest.
The discovery comes as Minnesota and the rest of nation escalates efforts to make hydrogen more feasible as a power source.
President Bush, for example, has made widespread use of hydrogen fuel cells the centerpiece of his energy plan.
The Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development, meanwhile, recently submitted a report to the Legislature examining ways to develop a hydrogen economy in Minnesota. In the report, it argues the technology should be developed across the state, where renewable resources such as ethanol are immediately accessible, rather than in specific, targeted enterprise areas.
In its most elementary form, the universitys process works this way: Ethanol is fed through a fuel injector, vaporized and heated, and then converted by a rhodium-ceria catalyst into hydrogen, which can then be fed to a fuel cell to produce electricity.
One of the benefits of converting ethanol into hydrogen for fuel cells, Schmidt and Deluga said, is improved energy efficiency. A bushel of corn, they said, yields three times as much power if its energy is channeled into hydrogen fuel cells rather than burned along with gasoline.
Ethanol in car engines is burned with 20 percent efficiency, but if you used ethanol to make hydrogen for a fuel cell, you would get 60 percent efficiency, Schmidt said.
The reason, Deluga said, is because all water must be removed from ethanol before it can be put into a gas tank. But he said the new process, which strips hydrogen from both ethanol and water, doesnt require such a pure form of ethanol.
The work was funded in part by the University of Minnesotas Initiative on Renewable Energy and the Environment, the National Science Foundation and the U.S. Department of Energy.
Schmidt and Deluga said the university can be proud of the accomplishment.
The university wants to be, can be, and is in a position to make a major impact in this long-term solution, Schmidt said. Its a long-term solution to a lot of problems in Minnesota.
TOPICS: Extended News; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: energy; ethanol; hydrogen
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To: wallcrawlr
Mazel tov. So you can turn ethanol into hydrogen. You still haven't solved ethanol's main problem: it's ridiculously expenseive to produce. ethanol=subsidized food burning
To: uncle fenders
the spin I always hear on tv and radio here is that there is NO SUBSIDY on ethanol There may or may not be a subisdy on ethanol itself, i don't know. There is however a subsidy on its major feedstock- corn. That is, in effect, a subsidy on ethanol.
The reason why there is a reaction to this is that many of us understand economics and know that if this was so great, then it would not need subsidies in order to be profitable for people to produce it.
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posted on
02/12/2004 5:34:33 PM PST
by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along)
To: Nov3
per our earlier debate. Not saying this is the be all to end all, just FYI.
(Estored always > 0)!
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posted on
02/12/2004 5:38:09 PM PST
by
Flightdeck
(Death is only a horizon)
To: wallcrawlr
Why can't they just crack crude oil into ethanol ? or methane(natural gas) ?
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posted on
02/12/2004 5:44:06 PM PST
by
hosepipe
To: uncle fenders
"Anyhow here the price of ethanol is always about 4-5 cents less than regular" You think there's no subsidy of ethanol production? There is. Ever wonder why ADM is the sponsor of just about every PBS show with a news or politics focus, as well as a multitude of ads on newspaper editorial pages? Ethanol subsidies, and to coopt those sources so they don't oppose them. Ever. Also, the few politicians who have opposed ethanol subsidies always change their tune when they run for President -- that's due to the Iowa caucus.
"My current car used only ethanol.."
Actually you're probably using about 10% ethanol / 90% gasoline.
To: Moonman62
"Hey Tesla, what happened to all that money I invested with you?" --- J.P. MorganAlternating current and the power grid, Radio, Television, Radar, electonics, most all of our modern technology.
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posted on
02/12/2004 5:47:26 PM PST
by
templar
To: Rodney King
And just what source of energy are they going to use to turn the corn into ethanol,...Fermentation maybe? Been done that way for thousands of years, ya know.
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posted on
02/12/2004 5:52:52 PM PST
by
templar
To: Rodney King; wallcrawlr
http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/business/5052606.htm Posted on Wed, Jan. 29, 2003
Ethanol prices hit the skids
BY LEE EGERSTROM
Pioneer Press
As Minnesota's Legislature wrangles over whether to continue subsidizing the state's ethanol producers, ethanol supplies in the Midwest have soared more than 40 percent over a year ago driving prices down for the fuel additive.
Ethanol stockpiles in the Midwest at the end of December had increased by more than a million gallons over a year earlier, as more ethanol plants came on line in 2002.
But the ethanol glut is about to ease, industry officials said Tuesday, noting that Midwest corn farmers and agribusiness companies expanded production during 2002 to meet anticipated ethanol demand from California and several large East Coast states.
Bloomberg News Service reported Tuesday that prices for ethanol at gasoline terminals in Minnesota had fallen to $1.145 a gallon in December, which was the lowest price since July 25, and down 20 cents per gallon since Aug. 16, when terminal prices were at $1.44 per gallon.
Terminals are the bulk gasoline and ethanol centers from which the fuel is blended and distributed to gasoline stations. Minnesota requires blended fuels to improve air quality by lowering tailpipe emissions on autos.
"All I can say is I wish we were getting the terminal prices," said Rich Eichstadt, general manager of the Pro-Corn ethanol cooperative at Preston, in southeastern Minne-sota.
Pro-Corn, which is one of 14 plants in Minnesota, has been receiving prices of $1.05 to $1.10 per gallon for its ethanol during the past month, he said. Prices for ethanol at the plant, however, have dipped as low as 88 cents per gallon at times during the past three years.
The low price for ethanol comes at a time when Gov. Tim Pawlenty and the state Legislature have looked at reducing state subsidies to the ethanol program as cost-cutting measures to cope with the state's anticipated $4.5 billion deficit.
But it's the public policy of another state California that is partly to blame for today's low ethanol prices, said industry observers.
By January 2004, California is to phase out use of methyl tertiary butyl ether, or MTBE, as an oxygenate additive blended with motor gasoline. Most California refiners have made the switch to using ethanol or will have by the end of May, said Monte Shaw, spokesman for the Renewable Fuels Association trade group in Washington, D.C.
The California market is expected to create demand for 600 million gallons to 700 million gallons of ethanol annually. California state officials were worried in 1999 that there would not be adequate supplies of the mostly corn distilled fuel additive if the state switched from MTBE to ethanol.
"We're not hearing those concerns now," Shaw said. Ethanol producers built 12 new ethanol manufacturing plants and expanded six existing plants, including the Pro-Corn plant at Preston, during the past year. This created 1 million gallons of new capacity to serve the motor fuels market.
But Shaw said the industry is hopeful the worst supply-demand imbalance has occurred and will improve as California takes a bigger part of the national supply.
Pro-Corn's Eichstadt, meanwhile, said ethanol producers have responded to growing demand for the clean-burning fuel additive. But no industry has been able to "time development" to perfectly fit the market, he added.
New York and Connecticut are now looking at making mandatory fuel switches like California has in motion, he said. This will trigger more expansion of manufacturing capacity, and markets will continue to be volatile, he predicted.
The current low prices still produce a profit for the farmer-owners of Pro-Corn, he said, but not much. The plants serve as a "hedge" for corn farmers, he said, by which they gain income from ethanol profits when their corn prices are down and live off higher corn market prices and slim ethanol profits when corn market prices are higher.
Lee Egerstrom can be reached at
legerstrom@pioneerpress.com or (651) 228-5437.
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posted on
02/12/2004 5:53:51 PM PST
by
XBob
To: uncle fenders
If this technology gets me off the grid I'm all for it. Sometimes technology does catch up with pipe dreams. Here's hoping we can decrease our reliance on imported oil. Many of the world's present evils would be resolved.
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posted on
02/12/2004 5:55:06 PM PST
by
Arkie2
To: uncle fenders
(ADM - Archer Daniels Midland makes nearly one-third of all American ethanol.)
No subsidy?
When the feds tax regular gasoline a certain amount, and reduce that amount by over 50 cents per gallon for ethanol, that's a subsidy. It reduces tax revenue by about $1 billion per year, and that money goes to the ethanol producers. (And on the other side of the equation, corn subsidies also throw more money ADM's way.)
To: templar
Tesla was DC
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posted on
02/12/2004 5:55:44 PM PST
by
Arkie2
To: hosepipe
"Why can't they just crack crude oil into ethanol ? or methane(natural gas) ?" Because it would be expensive, a net energy loss, and ironically would require hydrogen as an input in the latter case.
To: TBall
Any idea where I could read up on that?
To: FastCoyote
It is a net loss, period. The 60% refers exclusively to the efficiency of the combustion process and it doesn't account for the energy used in the processing. It's another shell game.
I am all for alternative energy, but the junk science and this government mandated insanity has got to stop. The crap methanol blend they force on us now burns more valves than anything else!
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posted on
02/12/2004 5:59:56 PM PST
by
antidisestablishment
(Our people perish through lack of wisdom, but they are content in their ignorance.)
To: Arkie2
Tesla was DC Edison was DC, Tesla was AC. I take it you've never built a Tesla coil? Don't you remember when Edison electrocuted the elephant with AC to try scaring people into staying DC? It was a spectacular demonstration, but it ended up with the electric chair for executions, not DC for the municipal power supply.
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posted on
02/12/2004 6:03:51 PM PST
by
templar
To: ChicagoHebrew
http://www.axxispetro.com/ace.shtml State Average Ethanol Rack Prices
Date: Thursday, February 12, 2004
Iowa: 1.3224
Illinois: 1.3851
Kansas: 1.4157
Minnesota: 1.3610
Missouri: 1.4700
North Dakota: 1.3501
Nebraska: 1.3713
South Dakota: 1.3416
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posted on
02/12/2004 6:03:51 PM PST
by
XBob
To: Enterprise
"Schmidt said the reactor can be built small enough to hold in a hand and could in five or more years provide electricity for houses, of course they don't mention that the cooling unit will be as big as your house.
To: wallcrawlr
what're the waste products?
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posted on
02/12/2004 6:05:29 PM PST
by
lepton
To: Arkie2
No, Edison was DC, Tesla was AC.
To: templar
Tesla was a real Genious.
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