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[TomServo]

Dixie Bump!

[HELLRAISER II]

"Dixie Pride" is something that most Northernors won't understand, but we in the South, rich & poor alike all understand about Pride in our Southern Heritage as well as Pride for America. On the other hand alot of Northernors don't even have pride in the U.S. much less anything else.

[meandog]

The main trouble I have is one of historical accuracy, because the flag I most often see flying is the Confederate Naval Ensign. The official Battle Flag of Gen. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia was a red square one with thirteen white stars arrayed on a blue Cross of St. Andrew..But the official flag of the Confederacy is the one referred to as the "Stars and Bars", (the one sans the Cross of St. Andrew). And I don't believe there would be that much controversy if folks displayed the official flag--due to the ignorance of the American public.

[CobaltBlue]

Poor kid. Swallowed the party line, hook, line and sinker.

Sure, he's got a free speech right to fly the Confederate flag. He can wear a KKK pointy white hat while he's at it, and swear 'til he's blue in the face that the Klan is just misunderstood. And other people have a free speech right to tell him how much they hate him for being such a putz.

And I've got a free speech right to tell him that the Civil War was about slavery, pure and simple. The so-called "state's rights" is code for the right to own slaves.

[Modernman]

They did not give their lives to protect slavery in the South. They did not die to keep African-Americans from sharing the same liberties and freedoms that they were blessed with. They believed they were fighting for their families, homes and states against an oppressive government in the North.

Everyone loves to revise history. Was the civil war solely about slavery? Of course not. Was it solely about "families, homes and states against an oppressive government in the North?" Of course not. It was a combination of both.

Southerners were not the pure, innocent victims of Northern Aggression that many claim to be, while the North has hands that are just as dirty in the whole thing.

Is the Confederate Battle Flag a "symbol of regional pride?" Sure, to some. To others, it is a symbol of racial oppression. To deny that fact is to put one's head firmly in the sand.

[D Rider]

Everybody gets this wrong

It is not the Confederate Battle Flag!. It is the Confederate Navy Flag. The Confederate Battle Flag is square and the diagonal blue strips are dark navy blue.

Just a point of correction.

[sandydipper]

Long live DIXIE!

[WKB]

One corner of the MS Sate flag ping

[Non-Sequitur]

Slavery as an institution was fading, and making way for more pragmatic agricultural practices, including the use of immigrant labor.

Bullsh*t, Buffy.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

You know the poor confederate soldier's flag is being desecrated isn't a good argument. You could say the same thing about German soldiers and the Nazi flag.

The argument should be that this flag was the Virginia battle flag, it was selected many decades ago to represent the dead confederate soldiers because it did not represent the confederacy. I suppose some state or group could select one of many other battle flags, except maybe the Irish ones for the same purpose. But if the KKK or other hate group start using that flag then we would start the whole argument over again.

[lentulusgracchus]

The Confederate States of America was a compilation of southern states.......

Excuse me, Buffy? Does that mean that Grant "decompiled" Lee?

[PhilipFreneau]

Great post! Personally, I am offended by anyone who speaks unfavorably of the Confederate flag. At least 3 of my direct ancestors fought for the Confederacy, and at least two fought in the Revolution. In both cases they fought against tyranny -- they were very honorable men.

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[lentulusgracchus]

A liberal federal judge has banned the display of Confederate flags in cemeteries near our area. Could he, not the Southerners who revere the flag, be the prejudiced one?

Only two days out of 365 in a year are people allowed to fly the Confederate battle flag in Point Lookout in Maryland. There have been many appeals, but the judge concluded that it "could" cause hateful uprisings and counter-actions to prevent the flag from flying.

This liberal judge is obviously and manifestly wrong and politically motivated, and his decision is bad and would not withstand an appeal. He privileges mob outcry above citizens' civil liberties, but only because eclipsing those rights is convivial to his own anaerobic politics. He has determined that people's attempts to exercise their rights would cause violence, so he must prophylactically use state violence to prevent said exercise.

[WhiskeyPapa]

IS THE Confederate battle flag a symbol of hate?

Without a doubt.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

Heritage, not hate.

The heritage -is- hate.

When Abraham Lincoln was running for the senate in 1858, he had to face the propaganda that because he wanted blacks to be free, that this would lead to blacks and whites inter-marrying. He rejected this false position by saying that just because he didn't want a black woman for a slave didn't mean he wanted one for a wife.

But the basis of this charge was and is clear. The people of the day hated the idea of equality for blacks.

And the heritage of the War of the Rebellion in connection with the rebel battle emblem and everything associated with the Confederate States of America (so-called) is based on hatred of those different from you.

It is straight from "1984" to say that it's heritage, not hate -- when hatred was at the center of the rebellion.

Walt

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[lentulusgracchus]

Excuse me, but is your whiskey-loving dog barking again? I thought I heard him barking and crying. Could you please put him up? We're trying to hold a civilized conversation in here.

[Fiddlstix]

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