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Teen who ran away returned to polygamist community
Associated Press ^ | Feb. 9, 2004 07:05 AM

Posted on 02/09/2004 11:49:55 AM PST by cateizgr8

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:22:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

ST. GEORGE, Utah - A 17-year-old girl who ran away to St. George from the polygamist enclave of Colorado City, Ariz. after an alleged altercation with her father has been returned to her home, a newspaper has reported.

The unidentified teenager spent two weeks in Utah and Arizona state custody before being returned home Jan. 30, The (St. George) Spectrum reported. The girl's return home came after 5th District Court Judge James Shumate dismissed a protective order she had obtained against her father, saying the St. George court did not have jurisdiction over an Arizona case.


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TOPICS: Announcements; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cpswatch; fundamentalist; polygamy; utah
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1 posted on 02/09/2004 11:49:58 AM PST by cateizgr8
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To: cateizgr8
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2 posted on 02/09/2004 11:52:23 AM PST by sandbar
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To: cateizgr8
...barring signs of abuse or neglect, the mere fact a child lives in a polygamist home does not warrant the child's removal.

Oxymoronic.

Biblical narrative illustrates not a single case of happy polygamous marriage.

Animal sacrifice also ended with the fall of the Temple.

3 posted on 02/09/2004 12:06:21 PM PST by onedoug
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To: sandbar
I don't understand! Polygamy is illegal. Why isn't it prosecuted? And why return her to her parents? Would they return the child if they were drug dealers or arms smugglers?
4 posted on 02/09/2004 12:09:30 PM PST by sociotard (I am the one true Sociotard)
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To: onedoug
forget biblical narrative, real life doesn't show a single instance of happy polygamous families. These people are living in a different place and time. While I am generally opposed to the government taking children away from parents, it is obvious that this is an unhealthy and illegal situation they are being forced to live in, and they should ont be forcibly returned to it.

any I certainly don't want people to 'forget' the bible, but we all know that biblical narrative will get you nowhere with the government.
5 posted on 02/09/2004 12:11:09 PM PST by plastic_positive
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To: sociotard
They can move to Mass they will be safe there
6 posted on 02/09/2004 12:13:26 PM PST by sopwith (don't tread on me)
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To: cateizgr8
Won't be long before the children in same-sex "marriages" are similarly returned to their "parents."
7 posted on 02/09/2004 12:13:42 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: sociotard
"Would they return the child if they were drug dealers or arms smugglers?"

Yep!

8 posted on 02/09/2004 12:35:37 PM PST by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: plastic_positive
After Tom Green's poly-prosecution, a Dallas tv station ran a piece on an area loving, peer based M-F-F household with kids working just fine.

IMO, the major problem with plural marriages are the severe religious dogmas (master-subservient women and chattle children) which perverts loving human relationships. Yes, I mean Koran and Bible thumpers.

In my experience, there are far more good women than good men, and many, many children suffer because of it, not to mention the lonely women. More loving plural marriages would help kids grow up in post-modern, Post-Clinton, post-Super Bowl 38 Half-time, pre-islamic America.

We have sat and watched our social order decay under the helping hands of the Democrat socialism well-fare state. "Single" mothers and women have learned to depend on government as their surrogate husband, because good, lasting marriages are nearly rare.

If prostate pals and sapphics can be allowed to pollute the very meaning of marriage, plural marriages are every bit as valid. The State shall regulate. God shall judge.
9 posted on 02/09/2004 12:42:47 PM PST by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: SevenDaysInMay
If prostate pals and sapphics can be allowed to pollute the very meaning of marriage, plural marriages are every bit as valid. The State shall regulate. God shall judge.

Are we to apply that logic to laws in general?

10 posted on 02/09/2004 12:46:22 PM PST by r9etb
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To: cateizgr8
So, if the gubmint isn't setting sectarian compounds ablaze to protect the children, the gubmint is returning those kids at the point of a gun to the custody of sectarians.

They've sure got that social-engineering technique down pat.
11 posted on 02/09/2004 12:52:51 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: cateizgr8
This is disgusting. It points out that people under 18 have virtually *no* rights to speak of. There should be a legal way for someone 17 to become emancipated from their parents if the parents are maintaining such a repugnant lifestyle.
12 posted on 02/09/2004 1:42:11 PM PST by valkyrieanne
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To: sociotard
I don't understand! Polygamy is illegal. Why isn't it prosecuted?

Define Polygamy....

One man screwing more than one woman....men do it all the time without getting prosecuted.

One male living with more than one adult female....happens all the time.

One man "married" according to law to more than one woman...Crime!

Al long as the "marriages" are "religious" and not "legal", where is the crime? One man, legally married to one woman, "religiously" married to one or more single women. The federal government usually subsidized the arrangement by providing welfare to the "single" women with children...

13 posted on 02/09/2004 1:55:01 PM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: cateizgr8
Hey. I really have little room to be just one more self righteous judge.

After all, we did return Elian to HIS natural father, to become a slave in Cuba.

We're rapidly embracing all manner of redifinition of what constitutes family.

We've long embraced "multiculturalisms" many pluralities. I mean, "one mans poison is another man's meat." Right?

So I'm just stumped. Why NOT return the girl to her natural father and redefine polygamy, common in many other cultures, as just one more form of an "alternative family" lifestyle?


14 posted on 02/09/2004 7:17:14 PM PST by Coyote (the opposite of RIGHT is NOT left....it's WRONG!)
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To: plastic_positive
forget biblical narrative, real life doesn't show a single instance of happy polygamous families

How many women would be happy knowing their husband is having sex with another woman, especially in the next room or the next house?

What a miserable existence.

15 posted on 02/09/2004 10:50:35 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: sociotard
Would they return the child if the parents were poor white republicans?
16 posted on 02/09/2004 11:07:22 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: sopwith
They can move to Mass they will be safe there

Yup, now since Mass. has changed the definition of marriage to be man to man or woman to woman, next they'll say the old ways of man to multiple women or woman to multiple man is ok. Next they'll say man to boy or girl is ok, or woman to boy or girl is ok, even under 13. THen, man to cow, woman to bull etc. etc. etc.
17 posted on 02/10/2004 6:16:27 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: valkyrieanne
This is disgusting. It points out that people under 18 have virtually *no* rights to speak of. There should be a legal way for someone 17 to become emancipated from their parents if the parents are maintaining such a repugnant lifestyle.

There is. The kids can plead homosexuality.

("But Your Honor, you don't understand! We're gay, and our parents are homophobic!")

18 posted on 02/10/2004 3:50:28 PM PST by Don Joe (I own my vote. It's for rent to the highest bidder, paid in adherence to the Constitution.)
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To: sociotard; sandbar; cateizgr8; onedoug
Serious question in regard to polygamy:

How can the state interfere with a woman's right to choose with whom she will live and under what terms? E.G., Muslims are allowed 4 wives, some Mormon sects, many more (apparently). If these women freely choose to live with the men of their religion, have children, etc. what is their legal status?

If a Muslim is already married to 4 women and immigrates, what is the status of his wives? In many jurisdictions domestic partnerships are recognized. Who's to say how many partners are allowed?

An inquiring mind wants to know.

19 posted on 02/10/2004 4:07:55 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: Kenny Bunk
It's civilizational.

Read this. Then, give us your thoughts.

20 posted on 02/11/2004 12:36:46 AM PST by onedoug
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