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Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: kristinn
No speech code.

Just what you said.

Reasoned balanced debate, with respect for other posters, without the dishonest broadbrushing of conservatives.
721 posted on 02/08/2004 1:19:18 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: FairOpinion
Those people you rail on aren't even on this thread.

Yet you go on railing.
722 posted on 02/08/2004 1:20:14 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: sauropod
I merely stated FACTS:

"Anyone who is not voting for Bush, is voting for the Democrats. It's very straight forward and true.

People who claim to be oh, so conservative, but their admitted actions will result in a Dem victory are at the very least hypocrites."

723 posted on 02/08/2004 1:23:22 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: FairOpinion
Thanks for coming back on the thread as a vivid illustration of the problem I have been referring to.

Perfect.
724 posted on 02/08/2004 1:27:32 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
#640
725 posted on 02/08/2004 1:32:10 PM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: EternalVigilance
The truth still bothers you?
726 posted on 02/08/2004 1:35:37 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: EternalVigilance
"Certainly those who claim principled conservatism as their own and don't demonstrate it open themselves up for derision...."

Funny how this works, EV...

ALL conservatives who reject enlisting into the cult of the GOP's watered-down, compromised version of "principle" -- are actually deemed the lesser of "principled conservatives."

Band Of Brothers FR ain't.

727 posted on 02/08/2004 1:44:25 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: FairOpinion
Which truth are you referring to?

Or are you going to be continue to be so vague as to be irrelevant?
728 posted on 02/08/2004 1:49:06 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: F16Fighter
It's like the GOP itself. An uneasy alliance.

But my point on this thread is that it is primarily the conservative-bashers who are threatening to further fracture the alliance.

Of course I know that you understand that.
729 posted on 02/08/2004 1:52:36 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Neets
Damn..... I thought the embers had died out and were cold to the touch..... Seems there must have been a spark or two embedded deep under the pile so that when they were stirred a bit the embers began to glow again....

It's gonna be a long uphill struggle until the lever pulling event arrives some 268 days hence. An entire season of tilling, planting, harvesting and going to market must be done in the meantime...... well on to other things. Gotta get my tools and implements in order....
730 posted on 02/08/2004 1:52:42 PM PST by deport (BUSH - CHENY 2004 ..... 268 days until Tuesday 2 November - General Election)
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To: FairOpinion
The excellent original post was meant to make people THINK.

Baloney.

It was meant to inflame.

731 posted on 02/08/2004 1:55:20 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: FairOpinion
P.S. I didn't think it was an excellent post.
732 posted on 02/08/2004 1:56:48 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: MEG33
I agree with your #640.

But telling them to do it even if they don't like it is not the same as telling them, "do it even if you don't like it, you idiot".

Sometimes imprecations like that are needed to bring somebody up short or to their senses, but to keep hammering them with insults, and to continuously treat them with disrespect, is almost certainly going to produce the opposite of the claimed goal.

Some of us have to wonder about the motives of those who continue to do something that is so obviously counter to the interests of the President's reelection, and damaging to the unity of the Republican coalition.
733 posted on 02/08/2004 1:59:26 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: deport
Good hunting.
734 posted on 02/08/2004 2:00:02 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: FairOpinion
"People who claim to be oh, so conservative, but their admitted actions will result in a Dem victory are at the very least hypocrites."

Do you see ANY "hypocracy" in a President who claims to be "conservative" jeopardizing US security as hundreds of thousands Mexicans and perhaps alien criminals are streaming across the border at Mexico, yet rewarding the same people with eventual Amnesty?; A President who abandons enforcing a conservative principle by advocating massive government spending and growth?

Still waiting for just ONE person to explain HOW this promotes "conservative principle," and WHY any "conservative" President would impliment such liberal follies in the FIRST place.

735 posted on 02/08/2004 2:01:35 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: EternalVigilance
I have tried to temper knee jerk reactions to implications that I am one insulting thing or another because I don't have the same admirable qualities as another.

I repeat ,I am wanting to win an election,not an argument.
736 posted on 02/08/2004 2:05:52 PM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: EternalVigilance
Did I mention it is best to skip some posts altogether!
737 posted on 02/08/2004 2:07:49 PM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: MEG33
Kudoes on your temperence.
738 posted on 02/08/2004 2:07:49 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: MEG33
Did I mention it is best to skip some posts altogether!

LOL...oh, I do, I do...

739 posted on 02/08/2004 2:08:50 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Nix 2
I won't flame you, but I'm not convinced. When I see spending REDUCED (not reduced increases) when I see the DEATH of the Dept Of Education, when I see the DEATH of the NEA (National Endowment for the Arts), when I see the DEATH of these socialist beureau's, and a severe reduction in not only spending AND my Taxes, THEN I will have reason to rejoice.

Until then, Bush is still Democrat Lite.

740 posted on 02/08/2004 2:12:42 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Good night Chesty, wherever you may be.)
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