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Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: Texasforever
Sabertooth: The choir will love it though, I'm sure. Have fun.

Cheap shot as usual.

But he hit the bullseye and the bullseye was you. ; )

661 posted on 02/08/2004 4:42:30 AM PST by TigersEye (I voted for Bush in 2000 and gave money to his campaign.)
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To: TigersEye
You don't know who Frist is???

Seriously?
662 posted on 02/08/2004 4:43:31 AM PST by Neets (I always feel like somebody's watching me.~)
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To: MEG33
Frist is the REPUBLICAN Senate Majority Leader isn't he? So why is he bashing him?
663 posted on 02/08/2004 4:43:56 AM PST by TigersEye (I voted for Bush in 2000 and gave money to his campaign.)
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To: TigersEye
# 640.
664 posted on 02/08/2004 4:45:20 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: MEG33
My first political book was The Conscience of a Conservative. I am not a purist,my way or the highway voter..I am very concerned for our nation if Kerry wins the Presidency.That is a fact.That we can agree on. But as you say in your openner to me, it's a matter of degrees.

I was on Newt's site the other day. Something he said somewhat amazed me. I'm paraphrasing from memory, but his point was for 20 years he was in the opposition. He job was to use any tool to be in the opposition. When 94 came, he was a leader. He had to deal with reality, fact and truth. What worked in opposition (including the soundbites) was not in fact, reality and truth. And leadership requires more of you.

I think many conservative found that the old songs sang so often simply were more rhetoric than truth.

I wish I had bookmarked where I found that, as I'm sure to a point I've butchered his thought.

665 posted on 02/08/2004 4:46:52 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: MEG33
# 640.

??????????

666 posted on 02/08/2004 4:47:12 AM PST by TigersEye (I voted for Bush in 2000 and gave money to his campaign.)
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To: TigersEye
Just a quick way to let you see where I stand.
667 posted on 02/08/2004 4:49:24 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: MEG33
It's not an answer to my question though.
668 posted on 02/08/2004 4:50:10 AM PST by TigersEye (I voted for Bush in 2000 and gave money to his campaign.)
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To: MEG33
Remember, Bush can only serve four more years. Even if he can be trusted to administer his policies properly, can the next president?

669 posted on 02/08/2004 4:58:37 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: joesbucks
I think I have read that deficits being bad are a matter of degrees..how big v GDP is what I was referring to.

Young voters in the youth of their conservatism are true believers (I was)and never imagine "we" are flamethrowers at times.Our version of the dems saying Repbulicans will toss gramma down the stairs,children into hunger and care nothing for "the people"?

My Dad used to call the Presidency the great leveller.The extremes of right or left orthodoxy have to be tempered....I think Newt was discussing this as to leadership v minority.

Kerry still scares and sickens me(did I say that!?)
670 posted on 02/08/2004 5:00:36 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: William Terrell
Let the problems of the day be sufficient unto themselves.
671 posted on 02/08/2004 5:01:33 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: TigersEye
Do I detect a bit of fun and games?Is your tongue lodged firmed in your cheek..?
672 posted on 02/08/2004 5:03:28 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: MEG33
firmly..oops
673 posted on 02/08/2004 5:03:52 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: MEG33
No not at all. I LOVE kittens!
674 posted on 02/08/2004 5:04:27 AM PST by TigersEye (I voted for Bush in 2000 and gave money to his campaign.)
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To: MEG33
Let the problems of the day be sufficient unto themselves.

That's a very good point and there won't be a general election for many months.

675 posted on 02/08/2004 5:06:05 AM PST by TigersEye (I voted for Bush in 2000 and gave money to his campaign.)
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To: TigersEye
I see big white fluffy "clouds" in your posts!

I am not here to win an argument,just to win an election for the best man.That man is George W Bush IMHO....;)
676 posted on 02/08/2004 5:08:28 AM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: TigersEye
Actually the UN looks like the fool in this. They are whining about the interest on the loan. Bush looks magnaminous to the middle of the road voters and the UN looks like spoiled brats.

So you see it's all about the high road. JMO, when you(TigersEye) knee jerkedly rant about the UN to the average voter you turn them off. But show them(UN) to be a bunch of whining beaureaucrats and you gain converts seeing the UN as the whining beaureaucrats they are.

677 posted on 02/08/2004 5:10:10 AM PST by Dane
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To: MEG33
My Dad used to call the Presidency the great leveller.The extremes of right or left orthodoxy have to be tempered.

Agreed. However, the candidates for the office do not campaign on being the great leveler. Even when President Bush campaigned on being a "compassionate conservative" he gave no clear meaning to the phrase. In fact he was very vague. But never once did he say I will temper the desires of the left and the desires of the right.

Kerry still scares and sickens me(did I say that!?)

If you didn't, I inferred what you strongly implied.

678 posted on 02/08/2004 5:11:31 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: MEG33
Let the problems of the day be sufficient unto themselves.

Meaning. . .?

679 posted on 02/08/2004 5:11:38 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: MEG33
Absolutely! George is the man! He has show us the direction he wants to go. If we all get behind him now and let him know how much we like what he has done he will win in a landslide. Then, as a lame duck Pres. he can really put some steam behind his policies and make these first three years look like a pittance.
680 posted on 02/08/2004 5:13:00 AM PST by TigersEye (I voted for Bush in 2000 and gave money to his campaign.)
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