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Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: EternalVigilance
You guys are producing 'third-party unappeasables' at an alarming rate with your axe-grinding.

EV, go to your first post on this thread and see who started grinding their ax. You have been throwing off enough sparks to melt an anvil.

541 posted on 02/07/2004 11:11:09 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Thumper1960
Okay.

Are you quibbling with my point that Barry got quite liberal in his old age? (its pretty self-evident).

Are we never to mention that ever again? Is that a violation of some new Republican PC code?
542 posted on 02/07/2004 11:12:30 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Actually, Barry didn't change much. Though, he did become more Libertarian. Perhaps, it's the quality of Conservatives that changed.
543 posted on 02/07/2004 11:13:33 PM PST by Thumper1960
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To: Texasforever
Go to the original post, and see if there wasn't uncalled for nastiness thrown towards conservatives. It wasn't just the first sentence.

Was the poster simply railing on Democrats, as she claimed? Or was there more implied, both directly and indirectly?
544 posted on 02/07/2004 11:14:26 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: Thumper1960
No, conservatives have always opposed the homosexual agenda. It was Barry that left the reservation.
545 posted on 02/07/2004 11:15:36 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Go to the original post, and see if there wasn't uncalled for nastiness thrown towards conservatives

NO it was not uncalled for. It was spot on. If there has been uncalled for nastiness on this thread it started with YOU.

546 posted on 02/07/2004 11:16:19 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
No.

The nastiness started with the vanity. I simply called attention to it.

It was a smarmy attack aimed at conservatives, as any reader can see for themselves.

It is symptomatic of much that is wrong on FR these days.

That's why I jumped in. I'm sick of it.
547 posted on 02/07/2004 11:18:31 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Barry addressed the homosexual as persons, not as an agenda driven movement. It is not an issue that needs to be discussed here, at this time. However, suffice to say that it is not a Conservative desire to become involved in the very personal sexual practices of consenting adults, in their private residences. Too many Conservatives have skeletons in their closets to go there.
548 posted on 02/07/2004 11:19:39 PM PST by Thumper1960
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To: Thumper1960
That's not the point, and you know it. The homosexual activists have brought their behavior out into the public arena, and tried to force the rest of us to give it our seal of approval. Mr. Goldwater abetted them.
549 posted on 02/07/2004 11:21:03 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: EternalVigilance
What is the meaning of eternal vigilance when you can't be vigilant about your own resorts to personal insults which are ultimately silly, especially when grouped together...

All together, your posts haven't made a coherent statement about anything whatsoever. Just that you are a windy troll. Methinks you are slightly off kilter, but hey, overly right leads left, doncha know? Right time, wrong board?
550 posted on 02/07/2004 11:21:10 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: FairOpinion
Don't waste your time -- I wish I hadn't wasted mine.

Nothing you've posted has been a waste of time.
Even if EV couldn't comprehend it, MOST of us get it.

EV's challenges are a FR message board form of entertainment...like shooting fish in a barrel. It's fun!

551 posted on 02/07/2004 11:22:01 PM PST by Jorge
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To: EternalVigilance
No I think you may have a past problem with the author and let it get the best of you. If not then there is no excuse for your lack of class.
552 posted on 02/07/2004 11:22:09 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Nix 2
All you're proving is that you don't know a thing about me.

My posts stand on their own. I don't expect you to like it.
553 posted on 02/07/2004 11:22:56 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: Texasforever
I think you may have a past problem with the author and let it get the best of you.

Bull. As far as I know, I've never even seen her screen name.

If not then there is no excuse for your lack of class.

Ah, disagreeing with you equals lack of class. I see.

How classy.

554 posted on 02/07/2004 11:25:03 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Conservatives have always believed that government stay out of a person's private lives. Therefore, privacy of the citizen is paramount to Conservative ideals.
555 posted on 02/07/2004 11:26:08 PM PST by Thumper1960
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To: EternalVigilance
Ah, disagreeing with you equals lack of class. I see.

Nope.

556 posted on 02/07/2004 11:27:54 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Thumper1960
You're arguing just exactly like a liberal.

I argue against the homosexuals forcing their destructive lifestyle choices on the rest of us, in the public sphere, and then you pretend we are still talking about what they do in the privacy of their own bedroom.

I expect better of FReepers.
557 posted on 02/07/2004 11:28:10 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: EternalVigilance
In that respect, the political strategy has been to say clearly that they are here and they're not going to be driven into caves. Attack the personal actions of a group and they can either be driven underground or come out and fight for persoanl rights. They chose to come out into the open and fight. You can't fault them for that. Leave them alone and their more "colorful" members will have little use for flamboyancy.
558 posted on 02/07/2004 11:29:04 PM PST by Thumper1960
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To: EternalVigilance
But my post stands, and your claimed braininess doesn't stand up to the scrutiny of anyone who reads that exchange with an honest mind.

Right. I'm still waiting for you or anyone else to challenge what I've posted.

Do you even remember what we disagree about? My bet is you don't.

559 posted on 02/07/2004 11:29:15 PM PST by Jorge
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To: EternalVigilance
See the previous post.

Argue as a Liberal to fight the Liberal.

560 posted on 02/07/2004 11:30:16 PM PST by Thumper1960
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