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Message to ?Conservatives
Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: dubyaismypresident
There is too much bashing (across the board) and it isn't benefiting anyone anything.

Yes, you included. You and your personal insults.

441 posted on 02/07/2004 9:50:48 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
That's what you got for mischaracterizing me directly,

Source please.

Or we could bury the hatchet.

Your call. I'm cool either way.

442 posted on 02/07/2004 9:51:29 PM PST by NeoCaveman (changing the tone apparently hasn't worked on FR)
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To: Texasforever
I am bashing the 20% unappeasables

If you ain't got names, you got no ground to stand on. If you can't say what you gotta say to someone's FACE without couching it in terms of "they" and "them," you are a coward.

443 posted on 02/07/2004 9:51:29 PM PST by .30Carbine (I'm saving my vote for March 2nd.)
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To: Nix 2
Votes aren't "weighted." The vote of the most unabashed "small govt.-cut spending" FReeper isn't any more valuable to W than the vote of the guy who "almost voted for Gore in 2000." Rove knows this: peeling off one vote more than half of the squishster middle is where the win is.
444 posted on 02/07/2004 9:51:48 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.")
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To: dubyaismypresident
Then you assumed wrong. I didn't even utter the word until you lashed out at me, just because you disagree with me, that instantly makes me a Democrat right? Interesting set of logic you got going there.
445 posted on 02/07/2004 9:52:23 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Go back to the post where you "insinuated" I was a DUMBoCRAT.
446 posted on 02/07/2004 9:53:25 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Go back to the post where you "insinuated" I was a DUMBoCRAT.

I said it was a DUMocRAT tactic. Which you interpeted as me calling you a DUMBocRAT, IF I offened you then I offer this apology.

447 posted on 02/07/2004 9:55:40 PM PST by NeoCaveman (changing the tone apparently hasn't worked on FR)
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To: Texasforever
Not fair. Posted while I was typing. ;-)

But it doesn't change the substance of what I'm saying. Your constant grouping of conservatives generally with a group that got a tiny fraction of the vote, less than 1%, in 2000 is just plain wrong.

You allow your bitterness against those you judge threw the election to Clinton in '92 color your thinking to the point that it leads you into error.

And Perot wasn't even a conservative.

Sure, some small portion, very small, of conservatives voted for him, but part of the reason for that is the way they were treated by the GOP leadership, mainly moderate to liberal leadership (which has of course been my point.)

But most of them were just Joe-Sixpacks who bought into his pseudo-populist Larry King Schtick.

Man, you can't fool me. I have been dealing with the 'moderates' for years, and I have seen this attitude we are discussing tonight out there over and over and over again.

To some of y'all, we conservatives are nothing more than red-headed stepchildren.

448 posted on 02/07/2004 9:56:40 PM PST by EternalVigilance ((I'm a redhead ;-))
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To: .30Carbine
You can read the thread as well as I can, you can read the 3 threads calling for gridlock as well as I can you can read the 2 threads from the John Birch Society as well as I can, You can read the 2 threads shilling for the Constitution party as well as I can. You can read the Immigration threads originating from American Patrol as well as I can. There is no shortage of examples.
449 posted on 02/07/2004 9:57:00 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: EternalVigilance; .30Carbine
Did Bill Frist just fire Manuel Miranda for finding the demoflat's plan to use the intelligence committee's findings against Bush by leaking real intel, or did he call the dems on the carpet for it? Don't game me, I told you. Frist fired his chief of staff to placate teddy and the morons. I am betrayed. Manuel is betrayed. And so are we all. We had the real deal in our hands and didn't use it. They sure would have used it on us.

Now, if you MUST respond, please know what you are talking about.
450 posted on 02/07/2004 9:57:21 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: EternalVigilance
Then go up a bit farther and look for RLK.
451 posted on 02/07/2004 9:57:50 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: .30Carbine
Oh, please. You gonna show your face so someone can say something about Bill Frist? Which life are you living in?
452 posted on 02/07/2004 9:59:43 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: Nix 2
Did you see Miranda is filing an ethics complaint against the Dems? It ain't over yet.
453 posted on 02/07/2004 10:00:30 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Nix 2
LOL

No one ....strike that....few here fight fire with fire and see poilitical struggle like the enemy does. Bush may, or may not, be the best thing since video tape...but he's a damned sight better than anything the enemy has to offer. To many, W is a bastard...but he's "our" bastard. There is a reason W is president. Be it Divine intervention or the unconcious collective good taste of the American people.

As it stands, there are no reincarnations of the calibre of the Founders. Not that any one of them would be seen as anything but a rabblerouser or an antiquity best stowed in a museum. We'll need more than one more term to undo the damage done to this nation. After Bush wins his second term, it'll be imperative that we groom the next person for renewal. The question is, who will it be?

That question is the daunting one.

454 posted on 02/07/2004 10:00:56 PM PST by Thumper1960
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To: Nix 2
Why do you bring that up?

It's a nonsequiter.
455 posted on 02/07/2004 10:00:58 PM PST by EternalVigilance ((I'm a redhead ;-))
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To: gatorbait
I have now, gatorbait. Thanks a bunch. I hope he kills them.
456 posted on 02/07/2004 10:02:10 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: Thumper1960
Good post.
457 posted on 02/07/2004 10:02:13 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm a redhead ...and was once a stepchild...)
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To: EternalVigilance
To some of y'all, we conservatives are nothing more than red-headed stepchildren.

I could jam you up about the "y'all" statement the way you are doing me but I won't. If the unappeasable don’t want to be treated like Red Headed stepchildren then they should stop BEING stepchildren and pull their damn weight at the polls..

458 posted on 02/07/2004 10:02:27 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Then your interests would be better served by posting to the threads you site. Your broadbrush attacks are the tactics I thought only democrats used, and they use them because they have no postive argument for voting for their candidates. If you believe that your candidate has positive solutions for America, you ought not need to bash others, not even your candidate's opponent, but especially not conservative congressmen, press, and FReepers.
459 posted on 02/07/2004 10:02:47 PM PST by .30Carbine (I'm saving my vote for March 2nd.)
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To: Buckeroo
See ya :-)
460 posted on 02/07/2004 10:03:16 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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