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Message to ?Conservatives
Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: gatorbait
sauropod and I only have disagreements, we don't fight. Too much commonality to fight .

Damn! And I thought I was gonna get some Saturday night entertainment! ;-)

301 posted on 02/07/2004 8:47:30 PM PST by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: Happygal
We ain't fightin. I's jes lettin' 'im know how it is ;-)

You're not here to chase away the kitties are you?

302 posted on 02/07/2004 8:47:56 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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To: Texasforever
They have written themselves off.

Perhaps you should start addressing individual posters who have written themselves off rather than casting a net of aspersions over the broader "they." I believe in the New Tone.

303 posted on 02/07/2004 8:48:01 PM PST by .30Carbine (Did you go door to door?)
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To: FairOpinion
You just don't know how to deal with a Bush supporter who dislikes your tactics, do you?

You reach down into your normal bag of tricks and find it empty.
304 posted on 02/07/2004 8:48:18 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
You think insults will bring em back?

Look they are adults. They can either pout or vote, I DON"T CARE. What I will not do is beg them to do something they wouldn't do in the first place. Bush will win this thing by 51-55% popular vote and 320+ electoral vote and he will do it in spite of the unappeasables.

305 posted on 02/07/2004 8:48:35 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: EternalVigilance; Texasforever
You think insults will bring em back?

EV, I think a goodly number of those who are most incensed were never here to begin with. I se way too much of the Perot/Buchanan dogma in many of the postings. Frankly, the gridlock is bestter bunch makes me wonder if they really have thought out what they are saying.

I shall say this,though.Anytime someone has to tell you how principled they are, then they generally are not.

306 posted on 02/07/2004 8:49:00 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: .30Carbine
You're talking an awful lot of sense there, pard.

307 posted on 02/07/2004 8:49:22 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance; Texasforever
If it is 20%, you and all of us are screwed.

I voted for Bush in that poll, my anti-Kerry issues go back to his support of the Sandanistas. To have less than 90% on a conservative website scares the hell out of me. New strategeries other than "shut up you anti-Bush troll" are needed, soon.

308 posted on 02/07/2004 8:49:26 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Arlen Specter supports the regime in Iran, which is the same one that took our people hostage)
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To: .30Carbine
The 20% that have voted in the FR poll.
309 posted on 02/07/2004 8:49:32 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: sauropod
You're not here to chase away the kitties are you?

Hmmm...'chase away the kitties'?
You calling me a dog?

Some feckers gonna get his arse bitten!

310 posted on 02/07/2004 8:50:14 PM PST by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: sauropod; Happygal
As we both said, WE don't fight. We may disagree , but there is too much mutual liking and respect there to fight. Would you concur, Pod?
311 posted on 02/07/2004 8:50:32 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Happygal
You are, doubtless, anything but a dog, lass
312 posted on 02/07/2004 8:51:32 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: dubyaismypresident
than 90% on a conservative website scares the hell out of me.

Since 2000 there has always been an 80/20 split on FR between GOP conservatives and 3rd party libertarians/populists/paleo-conservatives.

313 posted on 02/07/2004 8:51:49 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: gatorbait
I was principled once...

...then I met you! *LOL*
314 posted on 02/07/2004 8:52:17 PM PST by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: Texasforever
The 20% that have voted in the FR poll.

And you think the sample is not representive...why?

Full disclosure: I voted for Bush in that poll, and in the 2000 election in the swing state of Ohio, and plan on doing it again in '04, no matter how much the "shut up don't critize" group screams and turns people off.

315 posted on 02/07/2004 8:52:43 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Arlen Specter supports the regime in Iran, which is the same one that took our people hostage)
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To: gatorbait
You are missing the point. The people you describe are few and far between on FR...easily spotted, easily refuted.

But the broadbrush condemnations of conservatives implicit in much of the language of many of these threads is doing alot of damage. The insinuation that all principled conservatives are somehow evil is ridiculous on its face, and insulting...and it is so anti-the-spirit-of-FR, too.
316 posted on 02/07/2004 8:53:28 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Texasforever
Since 2000 there has always been an 80/20 split on FR between GOP conservatives and 3rd party libertarians/populists/paleo-conservatives.

Source please.

Also, do you characterize anyone who disagrees on any issue a "libertarians/populists/paleo-conservative"

317 posted on 02/07/2004 8:54:02 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Arlen Specter supports the regime in Iran, which is the same one that took our people hostage)
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To: gatorbait; sauropod
I know, I know!

Gimme some credit for sarcasm! ;-)
318 posted on 02/07/2004 8:54:08 PM PST by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Amen. I second that motion.
319 posted on 02/07/2004 8:54:08 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Amen. I second that motion.

That is beacuse you are smart.

320 posted on 02/07/2004 8:55:41 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Arlen Specter supports the regime in Iran, which is the same one that took our people hostage)
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