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Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: Nix 2
Outstanding article.
261 posted on 02/07/2004 8:21:34 PM PST by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: EternalVigilance
It's the dumbest way to win votes for a candidate I've ever seen.

You can't "win" votes that were not there in the first place. Look at the FR poll. There is 20% hardcore anti Bush/GOP posters on FR. They are NOT going to be won over. That is ok by me because it gives some spice to the place but Bush could kiss their butt in the astrodome and give them 30 minutes to draw a crowd and they still wouldn’t vote for him.

262 posted on 02/07/2004 8:22:07 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: dubyaismypresident
Actually, they have asked for my help. :-)
263 posted on 02/07/2004 8:23:43 PM PST by nopardons
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To: NMC EXP
Try again if you have a point to make. Regards

I have , look in the mirror.

264 posted on 02/07/2004 8:24:08 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: FairOpinion
And what do you consider the constant Bush-bashing that goes on around here "in the holy name of conservatism"?

Let's take this thread as an example.

Off the top of my head, it has been 0% 'Bush-bashing'. Can you find the posts and the posters who have bashed the President on this thread, FO?

The vanity itself was pro-Bush, even if presented awkwardly and with more than a dash of over-the-top silliness, and with a number of slams against conservatives thrown in with no purpose but to stir up trouble.

The rest of the thread has mainly been about the silliness of defending the indefensible out-of-control spending being inflicted on our posterity right now, and also a discussion, heated at times, about the damage inflicted on our movement and our Party and our President by certain attitudes.

0% Bushbashing

At least 50% Conservative-bashing

That's how I rate it from memory.

265 posted on 02/07/2004 8:24:42 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
"So you resort to lies?"

==

Aren't you going a little far here, calling me a liar?

Please point out a single post, where I lied.

I can see that your mission is to try to drive away posters who are effective in supporting Bush, so you can try to turn FR into a Bush-bashing forum, which would outdo DU.

Why aren't you able to respond to my points and posts -- your resorting to personal attacks and continuing them, only shows that you know you lost the argument, actually you never had any. Must have run out of your Democrat talking points.
266 posted on 02/07/2004 8:25:16 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: sauropod
Well, Sauropod, you like him that's fine. I disagree and responded to wha t I saw as a dead wrong post. He can hack it or not.
267 posted on 02/07/2004 8:25:21 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: FairOpinion; Lazamataz
Nobody here is being divisive. I love George W. Bush too.

You don't have anything against kittens, do you?

268 posted on 02/07/2004 8:27:08 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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To: texasflower
Outstanding article.

These were the parts that really stood out to me:

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"...as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop....This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

"You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions...the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended....your misplaced anger...Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

"If you were truly conservatives..."

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Masterful.

269 posted on 02/07/2004 8:27:38 PM PST by .30Carbine (How many voters did you register for Bush in 2000?)
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To: GOPcapitalist

So much for Bush's "unprecedented deficit".

270 posted on 02/07/2004 8:28:00 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: dubyaismypresident; sauropod
TTFN

Those pillows that were posted just look too damn inviting for me to be sitting behind this keyboard one min longer.

Ciao 4now
272 posted on 02/07/2004 8:30:11 PM PST by Neets (I always feel like somebody's watching me.~)
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To: sauropod
How ya been you old dinosaur?

Come to think of it one of my bosses used to call me a dinosaur.

Guess he was correct. I'm old school.....Old Right......Paleo-conservative.....

Now just plain getting old.

Regards

J.R.
273 posted on 02/07/2004 8:30:19 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: Texasforever
You can't "win" votes that were not there in the first place. Look at the FR poll. There is 20% hardcore anti Bush/GOP posters on FR. They are NOT going to be won over. That is ok by me because it gives some spice to the place but Bush could kiss their butt in the astrodome and give them 30 minutes to draw a crowd and they still wouldn’t vote for him.

Oh, how wrong you are, swami. If FR is a microcosm of the GOP and the conservative electorate, which in my experience it is above all other known microcosms, our party has a huge problem.

Because if 20% of the conservative electorate stays home or goes elsewhere, you can say hello to President Kerry.

My belief is that the attitudes of the conservative-bashers here are driving away voters George W. Bush has to have to win, and that we need to have in the fold in order to increase our numbers in the House and the Senate.

Guess y'all never heard that old saying about vinegar, sugar and bees.

It seems that the antipathy of some towards conservatives is more weighty than their concern about beating the RATs in November.

274 posted on 02/07/2004 8:30:42 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: nopardons; Neets
Publically?
275 posted on 02/07/2004 8:30:55 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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To: FairOpinion
posters who are effective in supporting Bush

How many voters did you register for Bush in 2000? 2002?

276 posted on 02/07/2004 8:31:12 PM PST by .30Carbine (Did you go door to door?)
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To: nopardons; Jim Robinson
Actually, they have asked for my help. :-)

Prove it :-)

277 posted on 02/07/2004 8:31:15 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Arlen Specter supports the regime in Iran, which is the same one that took our people hostage)
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To: John Jorsett
Were you aware that during the 2nd world war, our deficit was 100% of our GDP. I'm not sure what it is today, but I do know it's not even a hair's breath near that.

Take your TAX PLAN and take a hike! Raising taxes is exactly THE TOTAL OPPOSITE of what should be done. Even JFK knew that when he called for tax cuts. We need to make the tax cuts permanent.
278 posted on 02/07/2004 8:31:47 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: FairOpinion
I can see that your mission is to try to drive away posters who are effective in supporting Bush, so you can try to turn FR into a Bush-bashing forum, which would outdo DU.

Another lie.

279 posted on 02/07/2004 8:31:54 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: NMC EXP
Ossifying as we speak ;=)
280 posted on 02/07/2004 8:32:25 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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