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Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: Soylent Democrats
Taxes do not need to be raised; that's a socialist's answer.

The rapidity of expansion in federal debt is outstripping any possibility of our being able to make it up in higher revenue from an expanding economy. A good rate of economic growth is considered to be 4%. Federal spending has expanded 25% on Bush's watch. Eventually, either higher taxes or immense (and real) cuts in spending are inevitable. That or letting high inflation take place so that the debt can be paid off with cheaper dollars. I don't like any of these scenarios, so it would be infinitely preferable to balance the budget right bloody now. Not likely, unfortunately.

181 posted on 02/07/2004 7:29:46 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: Nix 2
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"...as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop....This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions...the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended....your misplaced anger...Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives..."

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182 posted on 02/07/2004 7:30:00 PM PST by .30Carbine (That's a Pro-Bush argument if I ever heard one!)
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To: EternalVigilance; FairOpinion
No matter to me the way they are written...a vanity is a vanity is a vanity.

Lord knows enough of us have access to various ping lists that can be used to broadcast the vanity.
183 posted on 02/07/2004 7:30:31 PM PST by Neets (I always feel like somebody's watching me.~)
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To: MissAmericanPie
Stay calm, we have a front end loader on the way to dig you out of that mountain of bull you just buried yourself in.


Don't squeal too loud...... the lipstick is on the way....
184 posted on 02/07/2004 7:32:34 PM PST by deport (269 days until Tuesday 2 November - General Election)
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To: gatorbait
Oh my...I like YOUR way so much better. :-)
185 posted on 02/07/2004 7:32:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Neets
I'm not sure if I agree totally. I've seen some pretty darn well-done editorials that I would love the whole world to see.

Oh well, I guess that's why we have mods. Far be it from me to tell them how to do a job that I sure wouldn't want to have to do. ;-)


186 posted on 02/07/2004 7:34:02 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Miss Marple
I like what he did re: the Pickering recess appointment.

I like what he did re: Kyoto.

I like what he did re: Healthy Forests Initiative.

;-)


187 posted on 02/07/2004 7:34:22 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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To: FairOpinion
I hope it won't be moved to chat.
It's a better editorial -- with better analysis and better written, than many I see appear in the mainstream media.

It will sway lots of folks.

188 posted on 02/07/2004 7:34:29 PM PST by .30Carbine (It's a Pro-Bush argument if I ever heard one!)
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To: sauropod
Hey, three positive sentences and KITTIES as well!!!

There you go! LOL!

189 posted on 02/07/2004 7:39:13 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: EternalVigilance
***And I'm tired of idiots who think they're helping the President by pissing off thousands of conservatives.***

So, you're tired of people who want to see President George W. Bush re-elected?
190 posted on 02/07/2004 7:42:45 PM PST by kitkat
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To: Miss Marple
I'm not in the mood for positive sentences.

You came on the thread, admitted you hadn't read it, and posted an attack on 'principled conservatives'.

I hate it when people get attacked for being principled. It's awful.

Why are you folks so hellbent on being so divisive?

None of you have given me an honest answer to my concern...one that I have posted here a number of times.
191 posted on 02/07/2004 7:44:50 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: .30Carbine
30Carbine (That's a Pro-Bush argument if I ever heard one!)

On target.

192 posted on 02/07/2004 7:46:01 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: dubyaismypresident
It doesn't matter, here, dear...the UNAPPEASABLES are UNAPPEASABLE !
193 posted on 02/07/2004 7:47:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: kitkat
So, you're tired of people who want to see President George W. Bush re-elected?

No, I'm tired of idiots who think that attacking conservatives is a smart way to win people's hearts and allegiance and time and energy and money for a reelection campaign...you know, the things that are required to win.

I find it so ironic that the very people who claim the most allegiance to George W. Bush are doing everything in their power, seemingly, to damage him politically.

194 posted on 02/07/2004 7:47:17 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: nopardons
You, dear, are the truly unappeasable one.
195 posted on 02/07/2004 7:48:39 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Nix 2; gatorbait
I especially appreciated this part:

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

I was so worried by that smear piece I read in the Washington Times the other day:
White House seeks to loan U.N. funds - $1.2 Billion - for renovations
I'm greatly relieved to hear the truth come out on this thread.

196 posted on 02/07/2004 7:48:40 PM PST by .30Carbine (It's a Pro-Bush argument if I ever heard one!)
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To: nopardons
It doesn't matter, here, dear...the UNAPPEASABLES are UNAPPEASABLE !

I ain't your dear.

Just ignore the unappeasables, or hit the abuse button, Jim and the mods do a good job, and don't really need the toxic invective and flame wars that have heated up so recently.

197 posted on 02/07/2004 7:50:01 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Arlen Specter supports the regime in Iran, which is the same one that took our people hostage)
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To: Tamsey; Nix 2
Thanks for the ping Tams! Excellent post Nix! :)
198 posted on 02/07/2004 7:50:08 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: F16Fighter
My opinions may be " irrelevant " to you, but others like and agree with them. :-)

There ARE political naifs here and a lot of them imagine that they are political " experts". They aren't .

You'll have to " suffer ", until you ignore my posts or leave.

199 posted on 02/07/2004 7:50:43 PM PST by nopardons
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To: gatorbait
Yes, this thread is the epitome of the Pro-Bush stance on FR.
200 posted on 02/07/2004 7:51:18 PM PST by .30Carbine (And a Pro-Bush argument if I ever heard one!)
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