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Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: Nix 2
Gosh, I think I like you...

I can tell ya, the whiner's stand a good chance of getting John French Kerry elected, and that makes me ill!

141 posted on 02/07/2004 6:53:05 PM PST by hope (John French Kerry: International global elite's choice.)
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To: sauropod; nopardons
I thought we were supposed to be holding hands and singing "kumbayah"

you are so wrong! We are supposed to be holding Kumbayah and singing hands ..Get with the program ...:-)

142 posted on 02/07/2004 6:53:46 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: mathluv
I understand and appreciate that.

This is occurring now, however, as a direct result of NCLB.

143 posted on 02/07/2004 6:54:40 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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To: sauropod
I have a cat on my shoulder.

There's a wisecrack in there somewhere, but I don't think I better...

;-)

144 posted on 02/07/2004 6:55:30 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: gatorbait
OOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........
145 posted on 02/07/2004 6:55:47 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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To: sauropod
As a retired math teacher, and still active in schools, I am not aware of this. Can you give me a link?
146 posted on 02/07/2004 6:56:29 PM PST by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheny '04.)
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To: EternalVigilance; hellinahandcart; NYC GOP Chick; countrydummy
Its my girlfriend's cat (one of them).

Double dare ya.

147 posted on 02/07/2004 6:57:10 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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To: nopardons
WE are sick and tired and fed up, and sick and tired of ALL of the anti-Bush stuff being posted to FR, by the doom&gloomers/nays sayers/MORE CONSERVATGIVE THAN THOUers/fringers!

You got a nice get out the vote tactic there, for whom I have no idea.

148 posted on 02/07/2004 6:57:34 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Arlen Specter supports the regime in Iran, which is the same one that took our people hostage)
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To: txflake
'Amnesty' BS

BS is right because it is NOT an amnesty. Most reacted to what they decided it was and no longer even bother to read exactly what it says.

149 posted on 02/07/2004 6:57:48 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Neets; Senator Pardek; nopardons
"Your incessant postings on any and all threads that she posts on, (making comments that aren't quite adult I might add), do not contribute to the subject of debate."

Your opinion is duly noted, yet deemed... irrelevant.

And quite frankly, a number of posters are sick and tired of being referred to by Her Highness as "political naifs," the "fringe," and idiotic charges of "NEVER supporting the President."

How long must we be expected to suffer to this demogoguery??

It was cute the first hundred times...

150 posted on 02/07/2004 6:58:23 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: dubyaismypresident
SERENITY NOW!
151 posted on 02/07/2004 6:58:51 PM PST by diotima
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To: mathluv
I will ask the ex-wife next Wed. when i visit my kids for more specific information. This may be NCLB or it may be what the County thinks NCLB is or should be. I don't have more specific information right now.
152 posted on 02/07/2004 6:59:01 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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To: diotima
Serenity now, madness later :-)
153 posted on 02/07/2004 6:59:27 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Arlen Specter supports the regime in Iran, which is the same one that took our people hostage)
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To: Nix 2
Dear Nix,

I haven't read the replies yet, but I can imagine what is to come.

I agree with you and applaud you for your stand. No matter the aspersions on your character you will receive, you are right. Some people here are committed to using conservative "principles" to destroy the president. They care about nothing but defeating him, even at the expense of the country.

154 posted on 02/07/2004 7:00:29 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: sauropod
Thanks. I would appreciate that.
155 posted on 02/07/2004 7:01:09 PM PST by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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To: netmilsmom
I hold the opposite philosophy.

Pay off the debt now, so that you aren't throwing thousands of dollars away in interest. Wouldn't you rather have that thousands of dollars in interest saved in your bank account for a rainy day, then going to the bank?

In other words, pay off the debt sooner, rather than later.

There are times when incurring debt is a good or necessary thing. Unexpected medical bills (borrowing from my personal experience) to saved a loved one's life. Borrowing money for college to ensure a higher earning potential in the future. Borrowing for a more secure, more reliable car so you can get to work on time.

But, again, the sooner you pay these off, the less money going to other people than your bank account.

Only one problem with the Dems. They won't pay off the debt, either. They fought the Republican Congress tooth and nail against a balanced budget amendment, spent money like crazy, and still fought us on the war on terror. They won't "save" money in a "rainy day" fund for us, they will spend it. And they certainly cried like they were pulling money out of their *own* darn pockets when President Bush wanted to give some back to the very people who earned it in the first place!

156 posted on 02/07/2004 7:02:10 PM PST by TheWriterInTexas (With God's Grace, All Things Are Possible)
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To: F16Fighter
IF that is the case, I don't find it cute the FIRST time.

Plead your case to the Mod's using specific citations of the demogoguery.

It's verging on SPAM.
157 posted on 02/07/2004 7:02:18 PM PST by Neets (I always feel like somebody's watching me.~)
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To: EternalVigilance; sauropod
I have considered other peoples' opinions for quite some time. That's why I wrote this. It's exactly the same as trying to explain Santorum's position on the Texas Sodomy law. I'm still trying to get an apology from O'Reilly for doing exactly what I've seen a lot of you guys do. You don't seem to understand that these programs are the means to an end of them, not a gifthorse for all time as the dems wanted them to be.

Amnesty is no amnesty. Medicare REFORM is REFORM and has been needed for decades. Spending is up. Taxes are down. The stockmarket is up. Unemployment is down. There are two sets of statistics for how many jobs have been created and/or lost. The dems always pick the farm stats because they do not reflect the true statistics for the entire country.
Please don't think that you are the only one who works very hard for conservative candidates, because you aren't. I just do a bit more research, and I am of the opinion that a lot of the details are either deliberately skewed when passed on to the public, or some people won't ever be satisfied until they can cry foul and it will really be foul.
The deficit will right itself if we stay the course Bush has mapped out. The Medicare Reform plan doesn't even begin for ten years. By then, if we can pull in our peacock struts and elect who is GOOD for this country, the coffers will be overflowing, at which time, MORE tax cuts are in fine order.

Sauropod, the example you gave of teaching retarded children algebra might well be true, but don't kid yourself into thinking that the Teachers' Unions really give a damb about those kids or many others.
Your wife might be very special. I know many teachers who truly are. But the powers that have prevailed in this country for so long have blown ill winds and chased many good teachers out of the profession. The majority are woefully lacking, and no insult to your wife or her students, but yes, there are TOO many who want to see this program fail and they overwhelmingly support the nanny state and would rather be Dr. Feelgoods than teachers.
158 posted on 02/07/2004 7:04:39 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: JustPiper; Gallegos; HiJinx; janetgreen; FITZ; gubamyster; SandRat; WRhine; joesnuffy; B4Ranch; ...
Ping.

Interesting thread.

159 posted on 02/07/2004 7:05:15 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Miss Marple
Some people here are committed to using conservative "principles" to destroy the president. They care about nothing but defeating him, even at the expense of the country.

Care to be specific about who these evil people are?

Or are you just casting aspersions willy-nilly.

160 posted on 02/07/2004 7:07:36 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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